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| Kearn:
--- Quote from: TristanLuigi on October 29, 2017, 12:32:13 AM ---This isn't anarchism. --- End quote --- you do realize that government is pointless if anyone can simply pitch a fit and claim the laws don't apply to them, right? are you a sovereign citizen? --- Quote from: TristanLuigi on October 29, 2017, 12:32:13 AM ---Yes, but are the court's decisions relevant to what is right and wrong? --- End quote --- --- Quote from: TristanLuigi on October 29, 2017, 12:32:13 AM ---What Spain thinks of the ordeal is completely irrelevant --- End quote --- last time i checked, what the government you are subject to thinks is entirely relevant to your legal status |
| TristanLuigi:
--- Quote from: Kearn on October 29, 2017, 12:36:22 AM ---you do realize that government is pointless if anyone can simply pitch a fit and claim the laws don't apply to them, right? are you a sovereign citizen? --- End quote --- Yeah, because individuals are definitely the same thing as an entire society. Definitely. --- Quote from: Kearn on October 29, 2017, 12:36:22 AM ---last time i checked, what the government you are subject to thinks is entirely relevant to your legal status --- End quote --- The people are not subject to the government. The government is subject to the people. |
| beachbum111111:
Tristan, if the overwhelming majority of Catalonias population supported white nationalism, was against immigration, against joining the EU, etc. Would you still support their right to be independent? The answer is no. You can deny it but you would be against a Catalonian ethnostate being independent despite the majority of it's population wanting it. |
| Kearn:
--- Quote from: TristanLuigi on October 29, 2017, 12:38:06 AM ---The people are not subject to the government. The government is subject to the people. --- End quote --- police are illegal |
| TristanLuigi:
--- Quote from: Kearn on October 29, 2017, 12:41:53 AM ---police are illegal --- End quote --- Police exist because the people have allowed the government to maintain the police for the benefit of society (at least in democratic societies). |
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