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Catalonia's independence movement died before it started
Kearn:
no, police exist because someone has to be an authoritative actor of the state to enforce its laws and sovereignty
--- Quote from: TristanLuigi on October 29, 2017, 12:38:06 AM ---Yeah, because individuals are definitely the same thing as an entire society. Definitely.
The people are not subject to the government. The government is subject to the people.
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what exactly is your threshold between individuals and people? if i find some guy on the street to say the laws don't apply to "us" is it okay then?
beachbum111111:
guys some online poll says that the majority of Californians want independence California totally should be a sovereign nation guys
TristanLuigi:
--- Quote from: Kearn on October 29, 2017, 12:43:28 AM ---no, police exist because someone has to be an authoritative actor of the state to enforce its laws and sovereignty
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That is their purpose, but their right to do so derives from the people.
I seriously don't understand why this is so difficult for you. The government derives its power from the people, and ONLY from the people. It's literally one of the foundations of democracy.
beachbum111111:
Tristan is still ignoring that this referendum is about as legit as a poll from CIA
Ceist:
--- Quote from: TristanLuigi on October 29, 2017, 12:32:13 AM ---Yes, but are the court's decisions relevant to what is right and wrong?
I argue that they should be allowed to, not necessarily that they should. There's certainly a distinction there. Their decision may not be correct, but it is their decision to make.
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Yes. Court's are usually supposed differentiate right and wrong.