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Catalonia's independence movement died before it started
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Kearn:

--- Quote from: TristanLuigi on October 29, 2017, 01:06:47 AM ---Or, if you're going to continue being pedantic, how about 20 000 square kilometers?

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if andorra and luxembourg were annexed by france would they not meet your standards of having the "right" to secede?
beachbum111111:

--- Quote from: TristanLuigi on October 29, 2017, 01:09:34 AM ---Yes, I'm against it in that I think it's a bad idea. But they have the right to leave the EU.

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And the Confederate States had the right to secede from the United States
TristanLuigi:

--- Quote from: Kearn on October 29, 2017, 01:11:05 AM ---if andorra and luxembourg were annexed by france would they not meet your standards of having the "right" to secede?

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Oh jesus.
Alright, there's obviously a distinct difference between Catalan and Spanish culture, and not nearly such a distinct difference between Phoenix and the broader United States. I'm not a sociologist, I can't provide you with a robust definition.
Kearn:
if new mexico becomes 51% mexican do you think they have the right to secede and become a mexican state?
beachbum111111:

--- Quote from: Kearn on October 29, 2017, 01:19:26 AM ---if new mexico becomes 51% mexican do you think they have the right to secede and become a mexican state?

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you know what his answer is
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