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real talk: is rey a mary sue
Khaz:
--- Quote from: McJob on October 30, 2017, 01:11:20 AM ---I think the lore implications is that the Skywalker line extends before Anakin, because he got those genes from somewhere. In either case, it's a good point to bring up. It could even be a massive logical error to fit the story they wanted to tell.
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Nerd outing accepted! I agree with almost everything you said.
I've always been under the impression that the Force was just reacting to Plagueis' manipulation of midi-chlorians, and to balance his dark side forces, the Force just happened to find Shmi and bam out comes an Anakin. Of course this is just a theory but it makes sense compared to the theory that both Palpatine and Plagueis combined their powers to impregnate Shmi. It would explain why Palpatine was so interested in Anakin since he was a boy, but there's a lot of inconsistencies with that one.
--- Quote from: McJob on October 30, 2017, 01:11:20 AM ---One more time: "Jedi" and "Sith" don't refer to people who have powers, they refer to the two ancient ideological groups whose members may or may not have powers and want to reach their own version of "peace".
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Historically though, the Jedi and Sith have always been Force-sensitive users. Unless we're talking about political power here, then yes.
McJob:
--- Quote from: Khaz on October 30, 2017, 01:22:52 AM ---Historically though, the Jedi and Sith have always been Force-sensitive users.
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Yeah, I just didn't want somebody to call me out on some Extended Canon example of people without powers who call themselves Jedi or Sith aye.
Actually, I think in KotOR's story, the Sith employed a lot of non-sensitives to fill out the Sith Trooper army which they deployed on places like Taris to keep order while the real sith dealth with real problems. You could argue they're not really Sith though, and just mercs looking for a stable salary. I did recall having to go through a number of non-sensitive executives who might have been into the higher goals, though...
Cowboy Dude:
Tbh I think Rey's Mary-Sue-ness could be redeemed if she was like some sort of weapon made by Old Republic people specifically to fight Snoke. Kinda like Link in BOTW who's been in slumber for 100 years and forgot everything except for his skills. I mean Snoke's probably that old. Only flaw is they showed Rey as a kid getting abandoned so this idea's out the window.
All in all it's stuffty writing and something like my idea would be an afterthought attempt at fixing it.
Kearn:
yes
Tactical Nuke:
remember when luke "force-sensitive" skywalker had to learn how to mind-trick people over three movies but rey gets it right within three tries
mary sue right there