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Mass Shooting Megathread | Rancho Tehama, CA | 5 dead, shooter down
Trogtor:
i think what sev was implying was that if gun control would have been a little bit more strict and completely denied the dishonorably discharged air force guy a firearm he wouldn't have been able to shoot up a church.
torin²:
:D
Tactical Nuke:
--- Quote from: SeventhSandwich on November 07, 2017, 11:27:28 AM ---"Annoying Orange: Gun Control Would Have Left ‘Hundreds More Dead’ In Texas Church"
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/Annoying Orange-gun-control-texas_us_5a017390e4b066c2c039e457
bold claim considering the fact we've already learned that air force non-compliance with standard gun regulations is why this person was able to get a gun
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so what legislation would you suggest? redundant laws that state that the air force should follow its own rules? banning assault rifles, which would've prevented civilian intervention? there is no way at all that this could have been prevented with more legislation, considering that the whole reason that this happened was a guy with some gears to grind against a church was able to get a gun because of a logistical error
the most that can and should happen is that some air force officials get tried for negligence, much less sacked immediately
Headcrab Zombie:
--- Quote from: Trogtor on November 07, 2017, 12:11:46 PM ---i think what sev was implying was that if gun control would have been a little bit more strict and completely denied the dishonorably discharged air force guy a firearm he wouldn't have been able to shoot up a church.
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I think we're all agreeing on the same thing here, just wording it differently.
The air force failed to file whatever they were supposed to, and that needs to be fixed so it can't happen again.
But the gun control laws themselves, in their current state, already made it illegal for him to own the gun. His background check falsely coming back clear doesn't change the fact that it was illegal for him to own the gun. Stronger vetting on who can own guns wouldn't have made a difference when a) the current laws already vetted him, but b) he was failed to be registered in the database or whatever
--- Quote from: Tactical Nuke on November 07, 2017, 02:14:34 PM ---the most that can and should happen is that some air force officials get tried for negligence, much less sacked immediately
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This, plus some review to make sure it hasn't happened on other occasions, plus maybe some more oversight or process reform to ensure it can't happen again
beachbum111111:
--- Quote from: Trogtor on November 07, 2017, 12:11:46 PM ---i think what sev was implying was that if gun control would have been a little bit more strict and completely denied the dishonorably discharged air force guy a firearm he wouldn't have been able to shoot up a church.
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I can guarantee that it wouldn't have stopped him from illegally acquiring a gun. This guy wasn't stupid.