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| Headcrab Zombie:
--- Quote from: IkeTheGeneric on November 07, 2017, 03:24:11 PM ---The reason we can't have any reasonable dialogue on gun control and ownership is because of volatile assclowns like you who decide to attack the person rather than the point. Leave your anger and feelings at the door before you try to argue, because you're not doing yourself any favors here. --- End quote --- You're being far more angry and aggressive then he is tbh |
| RedGajin:
for the pro-gun boys, what about states where lax gun control is failing and leading to more deaths? prime case is indiana, which has p reserved gun control and funnels a lot of guns out to different states. people always bring up Chicago in these debates with something like: “strictest gun laws in the country, but highest death rate!”. a huge number of confiscated guns from chi comes from indiana. safe to assume that a fair number of the non-confiscated or untraceable guns come from there as well. do you think weaker gun laws would make Chicago safer? would making access to firearms easier for everyone stop gun violence? from my perspective, the arguments for gun control revolve around the idea that you make it harder for guns to be obtained legally, and then sold illegally to criminals. in chi’s case, the guns are bought legally in indiana at things like guns shows (which is a controversial topic in itself), and then transported to chi. by doing that, you lower the rate of gun-related murders, which in turn means you would also put stricter regulation on types of guns that are allowed to be sold (clip size, caliber, etc). also things like psych evals mass shootings are a lil seperate from this, as i believe most shootings have been unconvicted individuals whose biggest problems stem from mental health issues, so this is a lil off topic, just curious to hear some opinions |
| Køtt:
are you saying chi as a short nickname for chicago redgaijin? sorry for the confusion |
| RedGajin:
yeah, im lazy lol |
| SeventhSandwich:
--- Quote from: Tactical Nuke on November 07, 2017, 02:14:34 PM ---so what legislation would you suggest? redundant laws that state that the air force should follow its own rules? banning assault rifles, which would've prevented civilian intervention? there is no way at all that this could have been prevented with more legislation, considering that the whole reason that this happened was a guy with some gears to grind against a church was able to get a gun because of a logistical error --- End quote --- Easy, kick the stuff out of the Air Force with a massive fine. Fire everyone who was involved at every step of this forget-up. Create such a negative incentive for this kind of bullstuff that it never happens again. The incentive system created by laws is based on what happens after you don't follow the law. Enforce the law we already passed, and if it's not good enough, make it stricter. |
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