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Looking for advice on a good starting handgun for learning & self defense
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Pecon:

--- Quote from: IkeTheGeneric on November 20, 2017, 10:49:23 AM ---Light and thin are the qualities you wanna look for in a carry pistol. Anything too bulky or too heavy is gonna be awkward to carry.

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Yes, but I plan to use this gun for learning. I'll buy a different gun in the future for concealed carry, I mentioned that in the op.
Zloff:
my personal experience is limited to various S&W semi-autos, glocks, the M9, and 1911-type handguns

stick to 9mm or 380; cheap & common ammo. subjective handling feel is more important than objective on-paper stats: if you aren't comfortable using the weapon then you can't really expect to operate it quickly and effectively. for reference i have small girly hands for a 5'11" @ 150 lb guy:

glock 19/23/37 - imho the ergonomics are atrocious-- both holding and shooting. that's all i can really say about them. I heard they're reliable tho idk lol

beretta M9 - at its size and weight the capacity should be more like 17-19 rounds. they shoot straight and reliably but overall it's too big for my hands and too big for eventual cc (not that it can't be carried; my sister's bf carries one daily but he's a freaking bear)

1911-types - my favorite honestly. for me they feel just right in every way (albeit a trigger job usually goes a long way), even the (rare) double-stack .45 variants are more comfortable than the M9 and G37. single-stacks are skinny so they aren't too intrusive when carrying. look into 9mm kimbers

S&W shield .40 - i've put more rounds through this one than any other and it has jammed more consistently than any other in this list, but i have messed with its guts a bit. all-around great pistol otherwise

i've heard a lot of good about canik pistols but never even held one yet
Corderlain:
Get a glock. Anyone who says anything else for a starter pistol doesn't know what they're talking about. They're easy to maintain, cheap to replace anything broken, and plentiful so low overall cost. Plus 9 mm ammo is cheap. Like I said though, take the course first.
Køtt:

--- Quote from: kongo on November 20, 2017, 11:00:27 AM ---do not get a five-seven, i have never seen one cost less than a thousand dollars and that is definitely not the investment pecon wants to make when they don't even know what will feel comfortable for them to use

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i mean i heard some good reviews about it, so that's why i sort of took a shot in the dark and suggested so.  but thanks for the call-out.
Zloff:
get a colt paterson. anyone who says anything else for a starter pistol doesn't know what they're talking about.
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