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| TristanLuigi:
--- Quote from: PhantOS on November 22, 2017, 10:56:10 PM ---yes it is? you realize the whole anti-net neutrality argument is based around the fact that you pay for categories of internet usage, right? There's no google vs yahoo throttling, it's Google vs Netflix because one is part of a browser package and the other is part of the video package --- End quote --- there's no additional cost for the ISP between 10kB of data from Google and 10kB of data from Netflix, why the forget would you pay more for one than the other also, without net neutrality, ISPs could discriminate "within" categories For instance, Yahoo is owned by Verizon. If you have internet through Verizon, Verizon could give you data from Yahoo at a fast speed, while restricting Google unless you pay $5/mo. Since most consumers won't want to do this, they'll start using Yahoo, which creates an unfair market. Now imagine they do this with news sources, and you give ISPs the ability to determine what information the public can see easily, and which they can't. |
| PhantOS:
--- Quote from: TristanLuigi on November 22, 2017, 10:56:56 PM ---there's no additional cost for the ISP between 10kB of data from Google and 10kB of data from Netflix, why the forget would you pay more for one than the other also, without net neutrality, ISPs could discriminate "within" categories For instance, Yahoo is owned by Verizon. If you have internet through Verizon, Verizon could give you data from Yahoo at a fast speed, while restricting Google unless you pay $5/mo. --- End quote --- 1) it's essentially like a phone plan. Will you pay more for unlimited call or unlimited text? If you're somebody who never calls but texts every day, obviously the latter package is better. With net neutrality, they ignore that and make you pay for both. So yeah, individualized plans are a perk of the loss of net neutrality 2) I'm sure there are still regulations in place to prevent internal discrimination between packages |
| Red Spy:
--- Quote from: TristanLuigi on November 22, 2017, 10:56:56 PM ---Now imagine they do this with news sources, and you give ISPs the ability to determine what information the public can see easily, and which they can't. --- End quote --- why would they push certain news sources though |
| TristanLuigi:
--- Quote from: Red Spy on November 22, 2017, 11:01:31 PM ---why would they push certain news sources though --- End quote --- They might have an agenda, or might want to net more revenue from the companies they own. MSNBC is owned by Comcast - do you want to give Comcast the power to slow down competitors to MSNBC? --- Quote from: PhantOS on November 22, 2017, 11:01:01 PM ---1) it's essentially like a phone plan. Will you pay more for unlimited call or unlimited text? If you're somebody who never calls but texts every day, obviously the latter package is better. With net neutrality, they ignore that and make you pay for both. So yeah, individualized plans are a perk of the loss of net neutrality --- End quote --- yeah, and phone plans are fairly universally hated for a reason. if we could prohibit networks from discriminating between texts, calls, and internet, I would be in favor of it. you're not saving any money by doing this; the company is simply able to nickel-and-dime you more easily. --- Quote from: PhantOS on November 22, 2017, 11:01:01 PM ---2) I'm sure there are still regulations in place to prevent internal discrimination between packages --- End quote --- there wouldn't be if net neutrality is repealed. iirc verizon already tried pulling this stuff; it was struck down in court due to net neutrality. |
| PhantOS:
Well I don't tend to browse many websites personally so I wouldn't be affected if that scenario were to occur. This is why I don't support net neutrality. As it stands I could definitely save money if they offered packages |
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