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Do you use a VPN?
Darth C3P0²:
--- Quote from: PhantOS on November 30, 2017, 12:37:14 PM ---you can't download a Vpn if they throttle or block sites that make vpns
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thats why you get one now
PhantOS:
You still have to send a request to the Vpn when you connect to it, your ISP can just block that initial connection, which is unencrypted. The only solution would be to connect to the vpn now and stay connected through net neutrality death 24/7 which is pretty difficult
VPNs just encrypt and tunnel information you send and receive from the Internet, but you still have to activate the VPN which would require a connection that any isp could see
Refticus:
i'm behind 31 proxies noobs
Pecon:
--- Quote from: PhantOS on November 30, 2017, 12:43:10 PM ---that initial connection, which is unencrypted.
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In the case of OpenVPN (the most common vpn protocol among most services), this is actually 100% incorrect. The configuration of OpenVPN involves the client downloading a public key for the server you intend to connect to beforehand. This means that when you connect to the server, your client encrypts it's request using the server's public key (which includes the client's public key, so the server can write it's first reply back encrypted as well). In this way, key exchange in theory never happens in the clear between the client and server which makes detecting a connection as being a VPN connection extremely difficult to do automatically. In theory, the VPN provider can host the server's public key in any number of locations so that clients always can get it, even if their ISP or other middleman is blocking their connection to the VPN website.
It's not 100% foolproof, but VPN's absolutely have the tools needed to circumvent censorship of their website or blocking of obvious VPN connections.
hillkill:
i'm not willing to pay for an expensive vpn that has absolutely no dns bleeding