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Police Shoot and Kill an Unarmed Daniel Shaver

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Tactical Nuke:

if it makes any of you feel any better, the guy who killed walter scott just got sentenced to 20 years

Drydess:


--- Quote from: Ragequit on December 08, 2017, 07:18:02 PM ---no, but have you ever had a job that puts you at risk constantly and had to fear that you'll never see your friends or family again simply because you're doing your job?
him being drunk does not excuse his from disobeying a clear order, nor would it have excused any behavior from anyone.
again, it is unfortunate and tragic that an innocent man had to die, but this is no case of "hey i'm gonna go out and kill a man today lol"

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the cop was certainly trying his best to act like a hardass tho. if their aim was to avoid the room in case there was another person in there (first of all they couldve used the adjacent room lol) and couldn't just go up to him and restrain them, they could've at least been 10 times less purposefully terrifying

Aplem:

The cop may have been yelling, as he is supposed to, but the police officer was in the right. The boy was told multiple times not to put his hands behind his back, as he was approaching the officer he did exactly that after being told straight up that he wasn't supposed to. The police told him that if he puts his hands around his back it will be considered a threat and they will take action.

It was the boys fault for not following those instructions exactly. If you're crawling, there is no need to reach behind your back.

Police Officers risk their life to do what they do, as far as they knew, he was very well armed with a knife or a gun. If somebody doesn't like the police, then don't call them when you need help. One less richardhead the force has to worry about.

Chris72003:

"oh stuff, he moved a nanometer out of the position i want him in, lets kill this forgeter"
But seriously, what do you expect from a young, drunken man riddled with anxiety and fear, only fueled by you yelling like a loving drill sergeant.

Nonnel:


--- Quote from: Ragequit on December 08, 2017, 06:08:10 PM ---https://youtube.com/watch?v=6yaie4bzsFIand that bullet meant for his leg can:

* hit the femoral artery and kill him anyways
* ricochet and hit another bystander
* go through the floor and hit someone downstairs(assuming they're not on ground floor
* simply missthe reason officers don't shoot legs or arms is because they're extremely small targets than in tense situations are hard to hit, so they usually target the biggest piece: center mass
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The main point there was five successful shots, not where they hit. Besides, someone who's lighting up a hallway and hitting someone five times in the head/neck is obviously not concerned about anyone's safety. It takes one shot to have a way lower chance of killing the damn person.

Of course the wrongs here started way earlier. He screamed at both of them instead of trying to get to the bottom of the situation, yelled at the guy to shut up when he tried to explain himself and he told him that he was going to shoot and the guy would not survive. That's not what a well-adjusted person, especially a police officer, would ever say.

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