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Police Shoot and Kill an Unarmed Daniel Shaver
Col. Burton:
--- Quote from: Ceist on December 08, 2017, 10:35:26 PM ---Regardless of how many chances he had, there was no excuse for this. Brailsford went in there with the intent to shoot and not once did he think about anything else.
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--- Quote from: Khaz on December 08, 2017, 03:20:56 PM ---Shaver ... made a single hand motion, notably distant from his waist. Brailsford yelled at Shaver that if Shaver did anything whatsoever that deviated from his instructions he would shoot him and he probably wouldn’t survive. For unknown reasons Shaver then reached his right hand back towards his waistband again
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I'm not defending the act of killing an unarmed man, but the commands were clear. perhaps since he was intoxicated he wasn't remembering the commands or something of the sort, but if an intoxicated man reaches towards his waistband not once, but twice (after he was told not to do it again or he "will not survive") that is end game.
Curse You:
i just saw the full video and i still don't know why the charles (the obnoxious guy who kept yelling, philip did the shooting) kept telling him to do the most ridiculous stuff. like at one point he told him to put his left foot above his right foot, like what the forget lol
Kumquat:
These are my police officers? These are the police who protect me in Mesa AZ? oh my god.
Ceist:
--- Quote from: Col. Burton on December 08, 2017, 10:39:50 PM ---I'm not defending the act of killing an unarmed man, but the commands were clear. perhaps since he was intoxicated he wasn't remembering the commands or something of the sort, but if an intoxicated man reaches towards his waistband not once, but twice (after he was told not to do it again or he "will not survive") that is end game.
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Not an act of it, but you are defending the officer who performed it.
The commands given were ridiculously complicated. The video that ragequit posted earlier provided an excellent example of what is required of felonious police stops. Something of this nature could have been done to avoid death instead of something overly complicated with the threat of death every few seconds.
Prior examination of the area could have been done but they went in guns drawn without hesitation.
--- Quote from: Curse You on December 08, 2017, 10:41:11 PM ---i just saw the full video and i still don't know why the charles (the obnoxious guy who kept yelling, philip did the shooting) kept telling him to do the most ridiculous stuff. like at one point he told him to put his left foot above his right foot, like what the forget lol
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They do this to physically slow down the suspect so they can't react quickly, however the combination of commands thrown at Daniel Shaver were ridiculous.
--- Quote from: Kumquat on December 08, 2017, 10:45:57 PM ---These are my police officers? These are the police who protect me in Mesa AZ? oh my god.
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Honestly if I were in your shoes I'd petition to have Brailsford charged with murder.
Kumquat:
--- Quote from: Ceist on December 08, 2017, 10:48:18 PM ---Honestly if I were in your shoes I'd petition to have Brailsford charged with murder.
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If the community college didnt just shut down for break I would have printed some stuff and put it around campus.
Im usually pro cop in these situations. This is clearly not one of those situations.