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Police Shoot and Kill an Unarmed Daniel Shaver

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Ragequit:


--- Quote from: Snaked_Snake on December 09, 2017, 11:03:13 AM ---So they scare him senseless by threatening to kill him, and shoot him when he does what they say? Well that's always a great sign.

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he literally did the opposite of what they said when he reached for his pants

Snaked_Snake:


--- Quote from: Ragequit on December 09, 2017, 11:25:22 AM ---he literally did the opposite of what they said when he reached for his pants

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I know two things about this
1 - I didn't see that so if you could point out when he does that it would be nice, thanks.
2 - I'm pretty sure that's not why they shot him, it was because he didn't do exactly what they said, and even if he was reaching for a gun 5-8 shots was unnecessary,

Ragequit:


--- Quote from: Snaked_Snake on December 09, 2017, 11:39:11 AM ---I know two things about this
1 - I didn't see that so if you could point out when he does that it would be nice, thanks.
2 - I'm pretty sure that's not why they shot him, it was because he didn't do exactly what they said, and even if he was reaching for a gun 5-8 shots was unnecessary,

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2. police are trained to fire until the person is neutralized, and if he really had a weapon, shooting him once may not have sufficed to stop him

Snaked_Snake:


--- Quote from: Ragequit on December 09, 2017, 11:53:15 AM ----snip-

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Mind sharing the timestamp? The imagine is too blurry and I honestly can't tell what he's doing.

And one thing I want to know is, do you really think if he was shot he would be able to pull a gun really fast out of wherever to shoot the police officer?

Conan:


--- Quote from: Snaked_Snake on December 09, 2017, 12:04:14 PM ---Mind sharing the timestamp? The imagine is too blurry and I honestly can't tell what he's doing.

And one thing I want to know is, do you really think if he was shot he would be able to pull a gun really fast out of wherever to shoot the police officer?

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its not what we think, its police protocol. you can't ask police officers to (potentially) give up their lives for their job in the name of justice/benefit of the doubt - very very few would ever consider being one then. this guy was perceived as a dangerous threat, and they treated him as such.

and yes, people can be shot and still pull out a gun and shoot others. its not like one bullet will instantly kill/incapacitate a person no matter where it lands. and in tense situations, accuracy generally drops, if they missed the first shot they may not realize it until after the guy "pulls out a gun".

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