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Police Shoot and Kill an Unarmed Daniel Shaver
King Tøny:
--- Quote from: Snaked_Snake on December 09, 2017, 12:51:06 PM ---he reached for his trousers
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That's the reason he died.
99% of the time officers say drop the gun when they see a gun.
Other than that 99% of the time officers say they want you to keep your hands where they can see them because the officers don't know if you have hidden weapons on you.
Snaked_Snake:
--- Quote from: King Tøny on December 09, 2017, 12:54:46 PM ---That's the reason he died.
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And it's ok because of that?
Conan:
--- Quote from: Snaked_Snake on December 09, 2017, 12:51:06 PM ---When the forget did I say "I didn't see it so it didn't happen"? I was generally asking for him to show me when it happened in the video
And yes, they clearly did not do it because he reached for his trousers, because 99% of the time officers shout something like "Drop the gun" or they say that at some point.
If you want to defend this, that's fine, just remember it's murder and it is not acceptable.
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did you 1) watch the video or 2) get a transcript of what happened/read this topic? cause they said they would shoot him if he put his hand down to his pants again. its not like he wasnt very clearly and distinctly warned against it - nothing illegal happened in this confrontation and the officers shot in response to the potential threat to their lives.
that said, the whole thing could have been handled differently and more calmly, esp considering he wasnt given an opportunity to speak or explain the situation.
Ragequit:
--- Quote from: Snaked_Snake on December 09, 2017, 12:51:06 PM ---And yes, they clearly did not do it because he reached for his trousers, because 99% of the time officers shout something like "Drop the gun" or they say that at some point.
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you can hear one say "don't" before shooting him. i'd argue they realized that, in the event that he did have a gun, they were past the point of "drop it" when he reaches.
Snaked_Snake:
--- Quote from: Conan on December 09, 2017, 12:55:56 PM ---did you 1) watch the video or 2) get a transcript of what happened/read this topic? cause they said they would shoot him if he put his hand down to his pants again. its not like he wasnt very clearly and distinctly warned against it - nothing illegal happened in this confrontation and the officers shot in response to the potential threat to their lives.
that said, the whole thing could have been handled differently and more calmly, esp considering he wasnt given an opportunity to speak or explain the situation.
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"nothing illegal happened"
Yeah I just rewatched the video and he put his hand down then like a second after they shot at him, that's totally legal and fine right? What a threat.
And I'm going to make this clear - Just because an officer threatens to kill you if you do simple things, doesn't mean they should kill you, or even threaten you like that in the first place.