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Police Shoot and Kill an Unarmed Daniel Shaver

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Ragequit:


--- Quote from: Snaked_Snake on December 09, 2017, 01:16:10 PM ---The police clearly went in unprepared then, they could've had a few extra officers, maybe a few going in different ways, but they didn't and they sent in the officers that were there, who still could've cleared to room whilst the man was being cuffed.

Just because they didn't know, doesn't mean they can't attempt to find out.

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they were trying to find out and everything was going swell until shaver reached for his pants. the mistake is on shaver, not the officers.

King Tøny:


--- Quote from: Snaked_Snake on December 09, 2017, 01:16:10 PM ---Just because they didn't know, doesn't mean they can't attempt to find out.

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So should the police wait and see if a man is pulling out a gun from his pants before they shoot?

Snaked_Snake:


--- Quote from: King Tøny on December 09, 2017, 01:19:26 PM ---So should the police wait before or after they see a gun pulled out?

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https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman

I was talking about the room, they could've found out if the room was clear and also cuffed the man.

King Tøny:

If possible you disarm first then cuff. Not cuff first then disarm.

https://www.policeone.com/Officer-Safety/articles/2717262-Search-first-or-handcuff-first-Neither/

Vigil:

That’s not strawman and no, they couldn’t. Are they just going to walk over a guy they still don’t know if he’s actually armed or not?

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