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Police Shoot and Kill an Unarmed Daniel Shaver
King Tøny:
--- Quote from: Snaked_Snake on December 09, 2017, 01:40:47 PM ---And yet again, they had 2 whole second to think it through but, yet again, they just shot him.
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Just curious.
Do you believe Han Solo shot second or first?
Snaked_Snake:
--- Quote from: King Tøny on December 09, 2017, 01:40:54 PM ---I don't need to explain the importance of proper pants adjusting while you have a gun loving pointed at you with every movement you make watched closely.
You do not touch your pants when police have their guns on you.
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You're just clawing for whatever you can to try to seem right, they had 2 seconds to realise he put his arm down, you realise that, but you don't want to lose the argument, so you say "but he was told not to!" just to back up your argument.
Vigil:
--- Quote from: Snaked_Snake on December 09, 2017, 01:26:01 PM ---It is strawman, he was making it seem like I was talking about the man pulling out a gun when I really wasn't, and even if they did walk up they still could have their guns aimed so if he does anything to try and harm them they can shoot then.
???
It's the same thing at the start in the end, they walk up to him weapons drawn so again, they can shoot him if he does anything to try and harm them.
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Strawman is just about a slippery slope, and assuming someone’s viewpoint to the extremes. Tony is entirely in line because that’s what this whole argument is about. Whether or not someone is gonna pull a loving gun on them during a call about a goddamn possible shooter. Also who’s to say he could have failed to grab his supposed gun at first, then attempted to try again? Every move you make is under utmost scrutiny in these situations. Did the police handle it properly? forget no, but the guy was also drunk.
King Tøny:
There was a specific reason why Han Solo had to shoot first but Lucas had to edit it to make it seem like Solo shot second to not make Solo seem like a ruthless killer.
In reality if Solo shot second he would have been killed.
Does any of this make sense now?
King Tøny:
--- Quote from: Snaked_Snake on December 09, 2017, 01:43:28 PM ---they had 2 seconds to realise he put his arm down,
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YOU DO NOT HAVE 2 SECONDS TO MAKE THESE JUDGEMENTS. How many times do I need to explain this?