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Police Shoot and Kill an Unarmed Daniel Shaver
Ragequit:
--- Quote from: Khaz on December 08, 2017, 04:06:03 PM ---i agree but it's also very clear the dude was in major distress. the whole situation is just tragic. why didnt the officers just approach ready to fire, place a knee on the neck/back and cuff him then and there? that's what I hear of all the time
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honestly i have no clue. maybe they were waiting for backup because they were expecting more people to be where they just came from. its obviously hard to speculate on stuff like this since nobody here was at the scene, but that's my guess.
--- Quote from: Nonnel on December 08, 2017, 04:05:39 PM ---He seemed pretty into the whole "DO WHAT I SAY OR I'M GOING TO SHOOT YOU!!!!!" and filling the guy with terror and anxiety
plus they didn't just cuff them while they were on the ground?
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correct me if i read wrong but iirc op said shaver was loving around with a gun, and that'd put anyone on edge if they knew they could get shot at any point of the arrest. it's a possibility that the officer may be mentally unstable but nobody knows
--- Quote from: AutoBahn on December 08, 2017, 04:06:05 PM ---I'm assuming the reason they were richarding around trying to get them to crawl over in the first place is because they were afraid someone could have been around either of the corners down the hall waiting to shoot them while they were distracted, but it's very obvious none of the cops involved received any real, formal training on how to deal with a situation like this. This is a bunch of beat cops trying to pretend they're SWAT, and the result is what you'd expect when you send a bunch of untrained people into a situation like this.
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yeah i feel if swat were deployed this would've gone down a lot better
SeventhSandwich:
--- Quote from: Khaz on December 08, 2017, 04:11:16 PM ---read first page and the link in the op has body cam footage
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Sorry, that was my bad. I just watched it. The guy was clearly adjusting his pants, but that motion is kinda indistinguishable for reaching for a gun in the waistband.
My reaction to this would be completely different if the guy hadn't been pointing a pellet gun out of the window. The cops had strong reason to believe that this guy would be armed.
Red Spy:
--- Quote from: Khaz on December 08, 2017, 04:03:14 PM ---and here's where you respond with the typical "ouch" "good one fellow redditor" "dont bully me" bullstuff
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i mean if you insist
Sheepocalypse:
Poor guy. You can tell he wasn't trying to do anything malicious.
What were the police on him for anyway?
RedGajin:
--- Quote from: AutoBahn on December 08, 2017, 04:06:05 PM ---I'm assuming the reason they were richarding around trying to get them to crawl over in the first place is because they were afraid someone could have been around either of the corners down the hall waiting to shoot them while they were distracted, but it's very obvious none of the cops involved received any real, formal training on how to deal with a situation like this. This is a bunch of beat cops trying to pretend they're SWAT, and the result is what you'd expect when you send a bunch of untrained people into a situation like this.
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idk how big this town is, but generally swat in smaller towns is just normal police officers with more training. idk how it works in larger districts