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| torin²:
he was obviously insane at that point but he probably wouldnt have gotten to the point of being unironically handicapped if he grew out of his edgy teen phase (which he never did) --- Quote from: Corderlain on December 10, 2017, 02:22:06 PM ---Good one dude --- End quote --- |
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--- Quote from: ultimamax on December 10, 2017, 12:48:06 PM ---I just don't get how you can look at this and not see this as the disgusting result of the internet radicalizing some kid. This is some /pol/ tier rhetoric and I've seen so many people from here say stuff a lot like this. Someone parroting of white supremacist/neo-national socialist rhetoric might just be doing it ironically/to be edgy, but when spaces on the internet are utterly bathed in everyone talking like that, it normalizes that rhetoric (and to some extent might impress those ideas into peoples' heads) and legitimately convinces lots of people. (some of whom are impressionable, psychopathic, and angry at the world) It's like how /pol/ went from ironically espousing neo-national socialist rhetoric to actually being a hub for white supremacy on the internet. It turns out on the internet, void of tone and context, sarcasm is hard to distinguish, and actual white supremacists will see recruiting potential in these kinds of spaces and establish themselves there. Not only that, but a lot of frustrated young men find themselves on places like 4chan and reddit, and that makes it especially scary. I'm not going to claim to understand your motivations for being the weird troll that you are, but does stuff like this not give you pause?? I don't know the extent of your relationship with this guy, but think about if you two had been more involved with one another, and if you talked about this kind of stuff often. I would feel loving guilty for enabling this guy. I would feel complicit in his descent into committing a school shooting. To me it seems like the only thing separating us from that reality is circumstance - besides the ominous references to school shooting, this guy's talk about hedonism and degeneracy is right up your loving alley. And so many people talk and act like you do, and so many people dismiss your kind of behavior as harmless. This story is a fresh reminder of what I've come to regret about this forum. This place is just a microcosm of the larger internet - it's a space where lots of kids and teenagers join constantly, and it's also extremely politically polarized. Lots of impressionable kids are forming their ideas about the world in places like this. To everyone reading this, please just think about what role your speech has in shaping the culture of this space and spaces like these. Things can only change if some significant percent of the active users be more active about preventing this kind of rhetoric. --- End quote --- i think this is really well worded and echoes a lot of my own thoughts |
| ultimamax:
--- Quote from: Corderlain on December 10, 2017, 02:17:03 PM ---Here at liberal land we're better than you! And we know it! --- End quote --- You can call any criticism of anyone's behavior "virtue signaling". It's just a defense mechanism to maintain the status quo without brown townyzing your own behavior. Rather than engaging honestly with anything I wrote you can dismiss instantly because it's "virtue signaling". --- Quote from: Red Spy on December 10, 2017, 02:21:14 PM ---this is like saying you can reason somebody out of being crazy --- End quote --- Obviously after a certain point someone is too far gone to change. But there are plenty of functioning sociopaths out in the world. When you push someone like that into a such a toxic ideological outlook you're getting the ball rolling for them to pull some stuff like this. |
| Red Spy:
--- Quote from: ultimamax on December 10, 2017, 02:27:45 PM ---Obviously after a certain point someone is too far gone to change. But there are plenty of functioning sociopaths out in the world. When you push someone like that into a such a toxic ideological outlook you're getting the ball rolling for them to pull some stuff like this. --- End quote --- you're acting like this shooting is a super common thing that happens every week. it isn't. 4chan isn't causing people to shoot up schools, being a stuffty human being is |
| beachbum111111:
Ultimamax gets hard at the idea of a straight white conservative male committing a shooting. It's pretty disgusting that the first thing he can think of after people have been loving murdered is "I wonder how I can put a political slant on this". |
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