Net neutrality shenanigins are happening.

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Ipquarx:

--- Quote from: mod-man on December 14, 2017, 07:37:06 PM ---he literally did not talk about any of this. i was on the phone for maybe 5-10 minutes. it sounded like i was talking to a friend, not a politician. i mean dont get it twisted, the dude had a professional demeanor about him, but he didnt talk like this or bring up any of this. it sounded like he just genuinely wanted people to look at both sides. which people should, if they arent

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Okay, I think I misunderstood the situation. I thought he was trying to convince you that opposing net neutrality was a reasonable position, not just to say that "both sides should be looked at" and being supportive of net neutrality at the same time. That seemed strange to me.

edit: a word

TristanLuigi:

--- Quote from: mod-man on December 14, 2017, 07:37:06 PM ---he literally did not talk about any of this. i was on the phone for maybe 5-10 minutes. it sounded like i was talking to a friend, not a politician. i mean dont get it twisted, the dude had a professional demeanor about him, but he didnt talk like this or bring up any of this. it sounded like he just genuinely wanted people to look at both sides. which people should, if they arent

thanks bro :))

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out of curiosity, what were the counter-points he brought up

Foxscotch:
people really blow this stuff up tbh. it aint that forgetin bad. it'd be better for it to NOT be repealed, sure, but it aint "the end of the internet as we know it"
in all likelihood nothing is gonna change. we didn't have these laws before, and that was only a couple years ago so it's not like the state of ISPs have significantly changed. in particular, the bits where people have supposed that companies could pay for people to have better connections to their websites than to competitors, is obviously antitrust. the FTC would take care of that, net neutrality or not

as for everything else, like I've said at some point in the past anyway, that "barely title II" thing is just a half measure anyway. it hypothetically could solve like 2 possible problems with internet service. it did forget all for people who don't have access in the first place

mod-man:

--- Quote from: TristanLuigi on December 14, 2017, 07:49:01 PM ---out of curiosity, what were the counter-points he brought up

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he mentioned that, while he respected and was happy with battleforthenet because they are doing their best to express their opinion as anyone with a strong opinion on something should, he isn't happy with how they aren't explaining both sides of the issue. he said they're pushing a heavy left narrative. he said he wants people to understand that its not just republicans who have voted to appeal but its democrats voting to appeal too. he thinks battleforthenet has created an aura of fear with their design:

black background, big red and white parapraphs talking about how the FCC is "gutting net rules for new fees, throttling, and censorship". and also asking people to spread images like:

as a graphic designer, i can understand how hard wording like this could lead someone to believe its intimidating. especially with the large amount of red color being used to write words that could negatively paint the FCC and republicans in general, seeing as red is their representative color (the psychological impact that imagery, color, and wording has on someone, especially someone of weak mind, can make or break their opinion on anything)

now i dont know the statistics and didnt have time to have an actual conversation with him about it because i was breaking from work, but these qualms with battleforthenet were the only things he had to say about the issue that i would consider a counter-point

Foxscotch:

--- Quote from: mod-man on December 14, 2017, 08:09:46 PM ---as a graphic designer, i can understand how hard wording like this could lead someone to believe its intimidating. especially with the large amount of red color being used to write words that could negatively paint the FCC and republicans in general, seeing as red is their representative color (the psychological impact that imagery, color, and wording has on someone, especially someone of weak mind, can make or break their opinion on anything)

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bih........ red is used for negative things nearly universally. it's republicans' faults for choosing the damn color, not everyone else for using it

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