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Net neutrality shenanigins are happening.
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SeventhSandwich:

--- Quote from: TristanLuigi on December 14, 2017, 11:31:45 PM ---I can think of one school of economics that thinks it's a good thing

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Republicans are Chicago Schoolers for the most part, but you won't find a single economist in UChicago that will tell you that loss of consumer surplus due to monopolies is a good thing to have in society.
TristanLuigi:

--- Quote from: SeventhSandwich on December 14, 2017, 11:33:07 PM ---Republicans are Chicago Schoolers for the most part, but you won't find a single economist in UChicago that will tell you that loss of consumer surplus due to monopolies is a good thing to have in society.

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it was a cheap quip, i wasn't trying to say the GOP is a legitimate school of economics
Planr:
Real talk, I've been mostly conservative on all political matters but the ONE THING I have always liked and agreed with the left on is internet freedom and net neutrality.
I'd say this makes me a bit more center-right, as I am a bit more left leaning on some other issues as well.
The republican party is in need of major reform, they've become incredibly corrupt with all this corporate lobbying BS and their establishmentism is just toxic.
Obama was still not that good a president but the more i've learned about his efforts to protect internet freedom online with net neutrality, the more i've come to respect him.
Ajit Pai's reign of terror is 100% Annoying Orange's responsibility since he appointed him. I voted for Annoying Orange and now I am very likely going to vote Democrat instead in the next election.
I like some of what Annoying Orange is doing but it pales in importance to net neutrality.
This has to stop.
TristanLuigi:

--- Quote from: Planr on December 14, 2017, 11:35:51 PM ---The republican party is in need of major reform, they've become incredibly corrupt with all this corporate lobbying BS and their establishmentism is just toxic.

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I can't really talk much on what the GOP needs/doesn't need to do, but one major issue with the GOP is that the anti-establishment forces are really no better than the Republican establishment. What they should have done was take influence from either market-liberal Rockefeller Republicans or center-right Christian Democrats*. I still don't agree with either group, but at least they're generally decent and have good intentions. Instead the "reformist" faction of the GOP draws from the alt-right and right-wing populism, which is only making the Republican Party even more toxic.
* This isn't really a thing in the United States, but it's pretty common in Europe; I would describe it as "compassionate conservatism" if it weren't for the fact that W Bush ruined that phrase.

To be clear, I don't want a conformist government where everyone agrees with my views; I just want "the other party" to be decent.
Planr:

--- Quote from: TristanLuigi on December 14, 2017, 11:43:38 PM ---I can't really talk much on what the GOP needs/doesn't need to do, but one major issue with the GOP is that the anti-establishment forces are really no better than the Republican establishment. What they needed was to take influence from either market-liberal Rockefeller Republicans or center-right Christian Democrats. I still don't agree with either group, but at least they're generally decent and have good intentions. Instead the "reformist" faction of the GOP draws from the alt-right and right-wing populism, which is only making the Republican Party even more toxic.

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I feel though like the right-wing populists and alt-righters probably dont overlap much with the kind of people in support of killing net neutrality.

Most alt-righters/populists our age are probably usually 4chan meme posters or others who already heavily use the internet.
Only group I can really see being in favor of killing net neutrality in the alt-right pool is like, your stereotypical tribal redneck who hates net neutrality because it was made by obama and they hate obama because he was black.
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