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| IkeTheGeneric:
--- Quote from: Cappytaino on December 15, 2017, 06:59:38 PM ---Dismissing an argument without offering a rebuttal is kind of stupid just fyi --- End quote --- I've already learned my lesson that rebuttals don't work with you people |
| Cappytaino:
--- Quote from: IkeTheGeneric on December 15, 2017, 07:25:19 PM ---I've already learned my lesson that rebuttals don't work with you people --- End quote --- how is that any better? You're literally just generalizing people that disagree with you as ignorant/unworthy of discourse, which is a ridiculous assertion to make. "Everyone that disagrees with me is dumb so I'm not going to respond" isn't an argument. |
| IkeTheGeneric:
Arguing with you isn't gonna bring net neutrality back so it's a waste of time. It's not my job to pick apart whatever lame conclusions you have about how our economy works |
| Goth77:
--- Quote from: Cappytaino on December 15, 2017, 06:56:09 PM ---but how can you he so sure the government wouldn't do exactly the same kind of fensorship by throttling/omission of search results? It sucks that you're getting forgeted by HughesNet, but nobody should have a monopoly. Not even government. --- End quote --- Because the government is lazy as hell and they only censor stuff that catches their immediate attention - which I totally prefer over the ISP choosing what I can and cannot view I don't have Hughes Net anymore, but they are a prime example of a stuff internet company that limits consumers online capabilities on purpose with a data cap and throttle - the government doesn't regulate this because as a "utility" it's up to the provider to charge what they want (even if they are scamming people) *COUGH COUGH DATA PLANS COUGH* --- Quote from: Cappytaino on December 15, 2017, 06:59:38 PM ---Nationalizing utilities rarely leads to better service and lower prices, often resulting in the opposite. --- End quote --- Most if not all states in the U.S offer assistance in paying for utilities - even though utilities are a luxury most people consider them essential for their standard of living and can expect the state to help them with such thing if their salary is below the federal or state poverty level |
| Cappytaino:
--- Quote from: IkeTheGeneric on December 15, 2017, 07:29:58 PM ---Arguing with you isn't gonna bring net neutrality back so it's a waste of time. It's not my job to pick apart whatever lame conclusions you have about how our economy works --- End quote --- but that wasn't your original assertion. You implied I'm part of some unspecified group of "you people" which makes my position not worthy of acknowledgement or rebuttal It's just in poor taste to generalize and dismiss people you disagree with imo --- Quote from: Goth77 on December 15, 2017, 07:30:48 PM ---Because the government is lazy as hell and they only censor stuff that catches their immediate attention - which I totally prefer over the ISP choosing what I can and cannot view --- End quote --- Give me an example of an ISP that currently censors legal content from its customers --- Quote from: Goth77 on December 15, 2017, 07:30:48 PM ---I don't have Hughes Net anymore, but they are a prime example of a stuff internet company that limits consumers online capabilities on purpose with a data cap and throttle - the government doesn't regulate this because as a "utility" it's up to the provider to charge what they want (even if they are scamming people) *COUGH COUGH DATA PLANS COUGH* --- End quote --- Data caps are a garbage business practice; the way to solve it is to introduce competition to break their pesudo-monopoly in areas in which they are the only provider. Then, customers wouldn't be forced to concede to such a garbage practice. --- Quote from: Goth77 on December 15, 2017, 07:30:48 PM ---Most if not all states in the U.S offer assistance in paying for utilities - even though utilities are a luxury most people consider them essential for their standard of living and can expect the state to help them with such thing if their salary is below the federal or state poverty level --- End quote --- If you're living below the poverty line, you have bigger issues than broadband access. Paying for broadband for people below the poverty line would require the money to come from somewhere, likely taxes, and I don't think most people are content to pay taxes to subsidize some social program that isn't really a necessity such as food, water, or electricity. |
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