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Going to upgrade my dad's XP for christmas, can I get some help?
King Tøny:
--- Quote from: The Murderous Cop on December 16, 2017, 01:14:41 AM ---do you know that people aren't always made of money?
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You can get a cheap less than 200 dollar modern computer which will probably out perform that virus filled windows XP.
So how much is windows 7 software these days?
Also factor in the price of the parts he needs to upgrade that computer.
Decent anti-virus software.
So you're spending about 100 dollars at least or more to upgrade an ancient computer when you could put in about 100 more dollars to get something better that will last longer.
Windows XP computers are old, wouldn't doubt it's nearing its last life.
I'm just being honest here.
King Tøny:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Dell-Optiplex-760-Desktop-Intel-Core-2-Duo-2-3GHz-8GB-RAM-750GB-HDD-DVD-ROM-Windows-10-Professional-19-Display-Keyboard-Mouse-Speaker-WiFi/162441189?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=940&adid=22222222227047571965&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=146896220291&wl4=pla-313212851687&wl5=9003217&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=113125887&wl11=online&wl12=162441189&wl13=&veh=sem
Budget 230 dollar computer at walmart, probably waaaaaaaaay more than what he needs but will be enough to last him about another 10+ or more years.
For 230 you get a monitor, speakers, mouse and keyboard and tower.
Can probably find something cheaper than that without the package deal.
That's half the cost of a PS4.
This is really nice for a budget. I don't think you can do any better than this, no matter how many upgrades you put into that XP.
Mac Workin:
--- Quote from: Darth C3P0² on December 14, 2017, 02:13:20 PM ---Well it already has 4gb ram and it's 32bit, because it's an xp, so idk about that. My brother does have some spare hard dries iirc
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those vague specifications tell me that it should be still capable of being used without being upgraded, i suggest installing Windows Server 2003 Service Pack 2 32-bit
that is if you want to stay with the 32-bit version if compatibility is your biggest requirement (server 2003 is the most stable version of XP's kernel, and should be compatible with applications running on XP)
and if your HDD isn't dying, there is no need for a spare HDD unless you have a feeling that the S.M.A.R.T. statistics are bad enough
--- Quote from: Darth C3P0² on December 14, 2017, 02:52:11 PM ---Desktop, my good sir
Well for gods sake the thing is like 15 years old do you really expect anything about it to be 64bit?
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there still can be a 90% chance that your outdated desktop is capable of 64-bit operation, my Toshiba Satellite P25 is and was always said to be only capable of running 32-bit applications
but a CPU swap made it capable of running 64-bit applications
--- Quote from: King Tøny on December 16, 2017, 05:57:00 AM ---You can get a cheap less than 200 dollar modern computer which will probably out perform that virus filled windows XP.
So how much is windows 7 software these days?
Also factor in the price of the parts he needs to upgrade that computer.
Decent anti-virus software.
So you're spending about 100 dollars at least or more to upgrade an ancient computer when you could put in about 100 more dollars to get something better that will last longer.
Windows XP computers are old, wouldn't doubt it's nearing its last life.
I'm just being honest here.
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XP machines are still capable of doing day-to-day tasks if its not related to DirectX 10 gaming and above
google chrome may not support XP but chrome 49 is still a viable browser that supports XP and can display most of the websites without entering a juggled up mess of UIs
plus LGA775 (considering he has 4GB of RAM and thats common in LGA775 builds) motherboards are still capable of being gamed on provided you overclock them
and things like parts are hilariously cheap (especially cpus) gpus on the other hand is a different case, but you still can get old parts for cheap
and honestly a modern 200 dollar computer whether it being a desktop or a laptop is a joke to certain fast ancient desktops or laptops, seriously
let us compare between these 2 processors:
(modern budget laptop processor) (ancient overclocker laptop processor)
Intel Mobile Celeron N2840 @ 2167MHz versus Intel Mobile Core 2 Extreme X9100 @ 3067MHz
2014 price: $107 (for the SoC only) 2008 price: $851 (for the CPU only)
2017 price: not known because nobody is selling them in SoC form, 2017 price: $9-17 (according to eBay)
though it could be bought around $150-$280 depending on the laptop
on the markets these days
upgradeable: no, it is BGA upgradeable: yes, it is PGA
..you obviously know which would win, right?
[OPTIONAL: THIS MAY NOT BE A GOOD RECOMMENDATION]
anyways for anti-viruses, IT IS a common-sense thing that consumers should know what to not click and what to click or download
you'll honestly never need an anti-virus if you can protect yourself from fishy or sketchy looking ads or downloads (which i have done for the past 10 years)
if i have to quote somebody from a certain website: "The best anti-virus is you."
Insert Name Here²:
--- Quote from: Mac Workin on December 17, 2017, 06:03:40 AM ---anyways for anti-viruses, IT IS a common-sense thing that consumers should know what to not click and what to click or download
you'll honestly never need an anti-virus if you can protect yourself from fishy or sketchy looking ads or downloads (which i have done for the past 10 years)
if i have to quote somebody from a certain website: "The best anti-virus is you."
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This is the most ignorant thing you have posted the entire thread.
Mac Workin:
--- Quote from: Insert Name Here² on December 17, 2017, 06:07:51 AM ---This is the most ignorant thing you have posted the entire thread.
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ok maybe i might've been bending my neck too far, but that was my experience
apologies if it had sounded forced but i was trying to explain by experience and not knowledge, i was not aware of adware being
present in certain installers which had appeared god knows when
just give me a little breathing room, my daily driver is not on a modern computer and a modern browser, its old... both of them
so there are high chances of me not being even able to run a standard virus since it may have certain APIs or .dlls that it needs
if you know that i am truly ignorant, could you help darth by giving him a better suggestion for an anti-virus?
i'm not too sure whether if i did but this statement was just years of running XP/Server 2003/2000/NT 4.0, i sincerely apologize if i sounded too much of a corpse under a rock