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| [NEWS] South Carolina is attempting to ban Bump-Stocks |
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| plad101:
--- Quote from: IkeTheGeneric on December 19, 2017, 07:06:08 PM ---You can also use a saw to make a shotgun more concealable. Doesn't make it legal because it's easy. I'm all for gun rights and private ownership but bump stocks aren't practical and are quite unwieldy. Restricting or banning them only makes sense. --- End quote --- My issue is less with South Carolina and more the fact this is making the ATF rethink their stance. The Bump-stock should be held under the same regulations automatic weapons are under (the ones allowed in the 1986 ban) and should be subjected to tax stamps, waiting periods due to background checks, then they are accessible to law abiding citizens. Also sawn off shotguns are SBS (Short Barrels Shotguns) and can be considered AOWs and legally owned. The Serbu Shotgun and the Mossberg Shockwave are such items. |
| IkeTheGeneric:
--- Quote from: plad101 on December 19, 2017, 07:12:32 PM ---The Bump-stock should be held under the same regulations automatic weapons are under (the ones allowed in the 1986 ban) and should be subjected to tax stamps, waiting periods due to background checks, then they are accessible to law abiding citizens. --- End quote --- I'd be completely fine with either or, I'm just weary about bump fire stocks being as openly available considering how unwieldy they are. --- Quote from: plad101 on December 19, 2017, 07:12:32 PM ---Also sawn off shotguns can be considered AOWs and legally owned. The Serbu Shotgun and the Mossberg Shockwave are such items. --- End quote --- They can be, but I'm saying that the easiness of a modification to a firearm shouldn't play in the equation of whether or not the modification should be legal. |
| plad101:
--- Quote from: IkeTheGeneric on December 19, 2017, 07:16:57 PM ---I'd be completely fine with either or, I'm just weary about bump fire stocks being as openly available considering how unwieldy they are. They can be, but I'm saying that the easiness of a modification to a firearm shouldn't play in the equation of whether or not the modification should be legal. --- End quote --- It's less so the Easy = Legal than the argument is this is an item out of civilian hands, that criminals or people who don't loving care can make out of a tube sock and vaseline. Also, I am more weary of them less so due to being widely available and that somebody killed some dudes with it, and more that they are pretty dangerous cause full auto fire is loving unsafe for people who aren't trained for it. |
| SeventhSandwich:
well so I guess what I learned from this thread is that the opposition to gun regulation is so staunch that concessions won't be made to even regulate the gun-equivalent of a dumb novelty toy looks like we're pretty much screwed when it comes to addressing gun violence by any kind of regulatory fraemwork |
| beachbum111111:
--- Quote from: SeventhSandwich on December 19, 2017, 07:54:17 PM ---well so I guess what I learned from this thread is that the opposition to gun regulation is so staunch that concessions won't be made to even regulate the gun-equivalent of a dumb novelty toy looks like we're pretty much screwed when it comes to addressing gun violence by any kind of regulatory fraemwork --- End quote --- I mean you are simply delusional if you think banning bump stocks will stop casualties from shooters since they can just make a bump stock themselves easily. The real argument for banning them is that it's a safety hazard to citizens who don't have training. |
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