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| MoltenKitten:
--- Quote from: Planr on January 02, 2018, 05:22:06 PM ---we apparently define "victim" very differently is my point. a murder victim is a victim. there was a conscious intent by another party to harm/kill the person, hence making the person a victim. cancer doesnt have a mind and decide to itself "i'm going to murder this person because it will be fun". its just badly-malfunctioning cells --- End quote --- So if someone's car slips on a patch of ice and they die from impacting a tree they're not a victim? |
| zelau:
--- Quote from: Planr on January 02, 2018, 05:22:06 PM ---we apparently define "victim" very differently is my point. a murder victim is a victim. there was a conscious intent by another party to harm/kill the person, hence making the person a victim. cancer doesnt have a mind and decide to itself "i'm going to murder this person because it will be fun". its just badly-malfunctioning cells --- End quote --- emotions are just chemical reactions |
| Khaz:
--- Quote from: Planr on January 02, 2018, 05:22:06 PM ---we apparently define "victim" very differently is my point. a murder victim is a victim. there was a conscious intent by another party to harm/kill the person, hence making the person a victim. cancer doesnt have a mind and decide to itself "i'm going to murder this person because it will be fun". its just badly-malfunctioning cells --- End quote --- just because you have a personal definition of “victim” doesn’t necessarily mean it’s always correct |
| zelau:
planr (intellectual smart guy) |
| Renderman In A Bowl:
--- Quote from: Planr on January 02, 2018, 05:22:06 PM ---we apparently define "victim" very differently is my point. a murder victim is a victim. there was a conscious intent by another party to harm/kill the person, hence making the person a victim. cancer doesnt have a mind and decide to itself "i'm going to murder this person because it will be fun". its just badly-malfunctioning cells --- End quote --- just shut the forget up lol |
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