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Israel or Palestine?
Nicepoint:
I mean technically the palestinians were there first
Kearn:
actually the jews were there first before the diaspora
Juncoph:
--- Quote from: Nicepoint on January 13, 2018, 08:05:48 AM ---I mean technically the palestinians were there first
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lol
SeventhSandwich:
--- Quote from: SeventhSandwich on December 09, 2017, 07:53:20 PM ---I don't think most supporters of Palestine in the United States are particularly fans of Hamas. It's more of a sympathy to the fact that the people who lived in the region basically lost all of their land and sovereignty, and continue to lose it through illegal settlement expansion. Part of this is due to the British Mandate and Israeli settlements, and part of it is due to the fact that all of Israel's neighbors tried to kill them in the Six-Day War and failed miserably. But essentially none of that was up to the Palestinians.
The conflict is complicated because both parties are at massive fault. On the negative side, Israel is guilty of human rights violations, and their settlements are illegal breaches of state sovereignty. Palestine is governed by a literal terrorist organization that puts bombing Israelis at a higher priority than caring for the people in the Gaza Strip. On the positive, Israel is a massive boon to scientific innovation and an economic powerhouse. Likewise, the land originally belonged to the Palestinians (or at least the Ottomans of which Palestinians were a part of).
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tl;dr, the conflict is complicated. flatly supporting either side is the wrong choice
Red Spy:
--- Quote from: Nicepoint on January 13, 2018, 08:05:48 AM ---I mean technically the palestinians were there first
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we wuz moses n sheit