someone brought a gun to my school

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private sales don't require a background check, but just because it isn't required doesn't mean it doesn't happen.  
Which means that there aren't universal background checks...

...for ~14% of overall firearms sales
around 40% if you count gifts and trades

...for ~14% of overall firearms sales
around 40% if you count gifts and trades
What's your point in minimizing it? Do you think that private sales shouldn't require a background check, or are you generally against universal background checks?

I’m pretty sure something is supposed to happen in private sales. It wouldn’t make sense otherwise because then the 4473 you filled out when you bought the gun would be inaccurate.

ban any fast-firing gun
What does this mean?
Full auto weapons are already.... basically impossible for an average citizen to own (cost of ownership is beyond affordable)
Semi auto (one trigger pull = one bullet) describes the vast majority of civilian owned firearms

they are only really made to kill.
Well yeah, it's a gun, all guns are made to kill
I don't get the people who say "yeah I support hunting and self defense, but you can't have x gun, those are only made to kill" like what are you going to hunt it defend with, something that doesn't kill?

probably some vows to the police force that you will not under any circumstance use this gun for harming of human beings
Is this actually supposed to be a legit solution?
I mean I'm all for background checks, but "do you promise to be a good boy?" isn't a viable background check

pistols are okay, honestly.
Are you aware that the vast majority of gun violence is committed with handguns? Rifles are really hyped as "killing machines" but if you look at come statistics, they only account for a tiny percentage of crime: more people are beaten to death with fists than shot to death by rifles

smaller, weaker non-lethal pistols that have like 1-3 shots per clip should be allowed in a public space for self defense.
Do you really think you're going to be able to hit a moving, fighting target when you're hyped up on adrenaline with only one shot?
Do you really think one shot is going to stop an attacker who's also hyped up on adrenaline?
How do you expect a non lethal weapon to be viable? "Ow, that hurt, ok I'll stop attacking you now :(" ?
Even trained police officers will dump an entire 10+ round mag into an attacker, because you need too make sure the threat is neutralized, not take one shot and pray for the best



You're talking about universal background checks? I was of the understanding that they're not in place, given the private sale loophole still exists?
Private sales only account for a tiny percentage of criminal gun use. Most purchases are black market, straw purchase, stolen, or legal purchase (they passed the background check)

Background checks aren't federally required for private sales, however:
Some states do require private sales to be done through a licensed dealer
Cross-state sales do have to be done through a dealer
It is still illegal if you were sell to a buyer that you know or suspect wouldn't pass the background check, were they to be given one

I have mixed feelings about universal background checks. I think it's fine for sales, but I don't think people should have to go through a ton of paperwork just to, say, loan their hunting rifle to their friends for a weekend hunting trip

Private sales only account for a tiny percentage of criminal gun use.
Do you have the stats to share?

I don't get the people who say "yeah I support hunting and self defense, but you can't have x gun, those are only made to kill" like what are you going to hunt it defend with, something that doesn't kill?
lol what the forget are you saying you cant defend yourself with a gun without blowing the attackers brains out

lol what the forget are you saying you cant defend yourself with a gun without blowing the attackers brains out
*tries to disarm attacker with knife like spec ops guy,  gets stabbed to death in .03 seconds*

yeah dude dont kill the person whos trying to kill you wtf

Do you have the stats to share?
I can't find the study I originally found, but this looks good enough:
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/guns/procon/guns.html

lol what the forget are you saying you cant defend yourself with a gun without blowing the attackers brains out
yeah dude dont kill the person whos trying to kill you wtf
This

I can't find the study I originally found, but this looks good enough:
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/guns/procon/guns.html
Where does that even mention private sales?

What's your point in minimizing it? Do you think that private sales shouldn't require a background check, or are you generally against universal background checks?

how would you enforce it

how would you enforce it
The same way the various states where it's implemented enforce it now, I would imagine

I get it now. Guns aren't evil, kids are evil.

imagine saying this sarcastically

imagine saying this sarcastically
imagine saying this sarcastically?