[NEWS] antifa member got hit so hard he is now officially handicapped

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Does this count as self defense?

yes
17 (85%)
no (cuck)
3 (15%)

Total Members Voted: 20

Voting closed: July 22, 2018, 11:51:23 PM

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thegoodperry

July 16, 2018, 08:01:36 PM
It's not self defense or legal. He's going to be sued.

You can't legally self defend against a baton in Portland because batons are not deadly force in portland. Anyone who thinks otherwise is literally ignoring an actual law and is entirely deluded

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King Tøny

July 16, 2018, 08:03:42 PM
Quote from: thegoodperry on July 16, 2018, 08:01:36 PM
It's not self defense or legal.

Yet he got released of all charges as it was deemed as self defense by the loving police.

Stop.

thegoodperry

July 16, 2018, 08:05:13 PM
Quote from: King Tøny on July 16, 2018, 08:03:42 PM
Yet he got released of all charges as it was deemed as self defense by the loving police.

Stop.
Where was it deemed self defense?

King Tøny

July 16, 2018, 08:05:54 PM
Quote from: thegoodperry on July 16, 2018, 08:01:36 PM
You can't legally self defend against a baton

So what the forget is he suppose to do then?

Allow himself to get hit?

Someone breaks into your house and beats your child with a baton, CAN'T TOUCH THE BURGLAR! IT'S NOT SELF DEFENSE!

King Tøny

July 16, 2018, 08:06:36 PM
I don't know why you're advocating for such bullstuff.

So he's suppose to just lay there and get hit in the face with a solid metal baton?

King Tøny

July 16, 2018, 08:08:37 PM
I would rather risk jail than be killed.

Most laws on self defense are loving handicapped.

thegoodperry

July 16, 2018, 08:09:40 PM
Quote from: King Tøny on July 16, 2018, 08:05:54 PM
So what the forget is he suppose to do then?

Allow himself to get hit?

Someone breaks into your house and beats your child with a baton, CAN'T TOUCH THE BURGLAR! IT'S NOT SELF DEFENSE!
I didn't write Portland's legal code forgeter. I have literally no opinion on what he should or shouldn't have done. All I know is that he's 100% getting sued for the amount of damage he caused to that antifa guy, unless they randomly decide not to press charges

King Tøny

July 16, 2018, 08:10:22 PM
Quote from: thegoodperry on July 16, 2018, 08:09:40 PM
I didn't write Portland's legal code forgeter. I have literally no opinion on what he should or shouldn't have done. All I know is that he's 100% getting sued for the amount of damage he caused to that antifa guy, unless they randomly decide not to press charges

They'll lose the loving case, the antifa guy attacked first and had a weapon.

thegoodperry

July 16, 2018, 08:12:17 PM
Quote from: King Tøny on July 16, 2018, 08:10:22 PM
They'll lose the loving case, the antifa guy attacked first and had a weapon.
This is highly unlikely because again it still wasn't legally self defense. In the end he did punch someone and gave them brain damage, since it's not legally self defense he'll be sued in order to pay for the guys medical bills

There was a case where to boys were fistfighting each other and one guy killed the other guy by accident with one punch and the guy that did it was sued up the ass by their family and lost the lawsuit. This stuff happens all the time
« Last Edit: July 16, 2018, 08:13:51 PM by thegoodperry »

King Tøny

July 16, 2018, 08:13:30 PM
Also you're wrong about the law.

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In the state of Oregon, outside of a few situations, the use of deadly force against a person is prohibited. These exceptions include:

    When another person is in the process of committing a felony that involves imminent physical force or violence

    When a burglary is being committed in a dwelling

    When a person is about to use unlawful deadly force against a person

The USE of deadly force is prohibited. Meaning you cannot use a gun on a guy with a baton. But the man is allowed to defend himself against a baton as long as he is not using a weapon himself.

This guy hit the man with ONE punch, he did not hit him with multiple punches. it was clear that he did not intend to use deadly force.

It's not his fault the antifa guy is drinking nothing but soy to the point where he would become brain dead with 1 punch.

King Tøny

July 16, 2018, 08:15:19 PM
If you see Mike Tyson down the street and you have twig arms do you think your baton is going to do anything to him?

Maybe you shouldn't charge at Mike Tyson.

That antifa boy made the mistake of attacking someone larger than him.

thegoodperry

July 16, 2018, 08:16:43 PM
That law deals with the use of force in a self defense scenario. Neither party was using deadly force at all, so neither of them could fight in self defense. You picked the wrong law

Neither of them really commit a real crime in the end. The antifa guy almost commit battery but that changed when the  right guy fought back. After that both people were committing misdemeanor assault and at this point either one of them can file a lawsuit
« Last Edit: July 16, 2018, 08:20:18 PM by thegoodperry »

King Tøny

July 16, 2018, 08:19:49 PM
The guy punched the antifa kid ONCE. He may have been put into a coma with that one punch but that is not deadly force.

It would be considered deadly force if he punched him again while he was laying on the ground but he backed off instead.

He did not go in for a second punch.


In fact what probably put him in a coma is those loving handicaps dragging a man with a concussion off the street like that.

Quote from: thegoodperry on July 16, 2018, 08:16:43 PM
That law deals with the use of force in a self defense scenario. Neither party was using deadly force at all, so neither of them could fight in self defense. You picked the wrong law

That's not how that loving works.

You can legally defend yourself against a loving baton. You just can't shoot a man with a loving baton. That's what the loving law means.

thegoodperry

July 16, 2018, 08:22:19 PM
Quote from: King Tøny on July 16, 2018, 08:19:49 PM
The guy punched the antifa kid ONCE. He may have been put into a coma with that one punch but that is not deadly force.

It would be considered deadly force if he punched him again while he was laying on the ground but he backed off instead.

He did not go in for a second punch.


In fact what probably put him in a coma is those loving handicaps dragging a man with a concussion off the street like that.

That's not how that loving works.

You can legally defend yourself against a loving baton. You just can't shoot a man with a loving baton. That's what the loving law means.
that is how it works. You can ONLY defend yourself against any attack that involves deadly force in Oregon. What you posted is a subsection of the defense law, but the primary law of self defense is pretty clear

A baton is not deadly force, therefore you cannot self defend against a baton attack unless they are actively causing near fatal damage. The antifa guy barely got a hit at all with his baton

Stellarnaut

July 16, 2018, 08:24:02 PM
personally they were both in the wrong imo. you dont just loving whack someone on the street in the name of "forget FASCISTS!!! national socialist!!!" but you also shouldnt literally punch someone so hard that they get brain damage
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