actually nah i was gonna be dismissive but im gonna make a real post now. here's a brain teaser: imagine a world in which kavakljhklh doesn't get appointed as a result of these allegations. the supreme court is still short a seat. the same president is gonna pick a different guy. the next pick is going to have all, or at least many, of the same qualities as kav because that's why kav was selected in the first place. there will be another right wing dude on the supreme court either way, and everyone knows it.
so, knowing that, what motivation does this woman have to lie? what has she to gain except to prevent her rapist from ascending to the most powerful court in the country? furthermore, what purpose do the rest of you guys have in defending kav? are you really enamored by his policy, or are you just defending him because he's on your team and you just don't care?
It's not very often that I see something so entirely sophistic and disingenuous that it prompts me to log in and break a two-month hiatus just to respond to it, but here we are.
actually nah i was gonna be dismissive but im gonna make a real post now.
Great way to start by establishing credibility and maturity. Well done.
here's a brain teaser: imagine a world in which kavakljhklh doesn't get appointed as a result of these allegations.
You're essentially asking us to imagine a world in which the burden of proof in the case of rape accusations falls on the accused to prove their own innocence and not in the accuser to provide some sort of substantial evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the assault in question occurred.
The presumption of innocence is a human right (
see: Article 11 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights). I would rather not imagine a world in which we return to the barbarism and kangaroo courts of the Salem Witch Trials. Until some sort of credible evidence is levied against him, Kavanaugh is innocent until proven otherwise beyond any reasonable doubt.
At this moment, there is a hell of a lot of reasonable doubt given Ford hasn't produced anything other than an allegation and is riding solely on her own testimony, which is considered the least reliable form of admissible testimony in a court of law, just barely above hearsay which is often barred for its unreliability.
the supreme court is still short a seat. the same president is gonna pick a different guy. the next pick is going to have all, or at least many, of the same qualities as kav because that's why kav was selected in the first place. there will be another right wing dude on the supreme court either way, and everyone knows it.
Kavanaugh is innocent until proven guilty. If unsubstantiated allegations of wrongdoing are allowed to bar him from appointment, that sets an incredibly dangerous precedent. That matters far more than "having another right wing dude on the supreme court."
so, knowing that, what motivation does this woman have to lie? what has she to gain except to prevent her rapist from ascending to the most powerful court in the country?
I don't think that anyone other than Dr. Ford can answer that. What motivation did Crystal Mangum have to lie about three lacrosse players from Duke? What did she have to gain by embroiling herself in an absolute clusterforget of an investigation? Nobody knows for sure. Ford could be seeking attention, or money, or political clout. It's hard to tell until we see how things turn out and how Ford reacts in the coming months.
furthermore, what purpose do the rest of you guys have in defending kav? are you really enamored by his policy, or are you just defending him because he's on your team and you just don't care?
I'm not enamored by his policy nor am I playing sides. I just firmly believe that until any sort of substantial evidence is produced, Kavanaugh is innocent of any wrongdoing in the matter and that his appointment should not be blocked by unsubstantiated allegations nor should he be demonized until we actually figure out whether or not he's done anything wrong.
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