Annoying Orange executive order to bar research funds from anti free speech colleges

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"You're opinions offend me, and that's your fault."
This is a loving brainlet argument.
did you even read my post matthew? i said they're all extremely stupid, it's just that the far right ones tend to cause a bigger issue/response because the people they're trying to irritate are COMPLETELY unable to ignore people. you're not in college matthew, nor were you in college immidately after the 2016 election, the single greatest date of gathering of complete and utter political handicapation on a college campus of all time. the last anti Annoying Orange protest we had at OU was made up of complete handicaps and everyone just laughed at them.

>Neither Williams nor the man suspected of punching him are students at UC Berkeley.

way to tie schools into this >.>
see my above post. it needed to happen but not explicitly because of berkley.

to add some master handicap free context here along with my opinions and experience in college:
 I go to a school(the university of oklahoma) where we've had some pretty major public issues in the last 4 years, namely the SAE incident(forgetin handicaps). we had a situation where two white girls(one of which was in a sorority) did blackface on snapchat and there was obvious outrage, and honestly for very good reason. A number of people called for the new president to be fired because "he didn't act swiftly enough" and called him a tribal POS and essentially said that the girls should be denied due process.

 Last school year, a girl filed false rape charges against our superstar running back Rodney Anderson, and many people were calling for his head immediately and that he was immediately guilty. I have a number of friends on the team who said from the beginning it was bullstuff. It was found to be completely false and she only filed the charges because she wouldn't date him.

 These are just the two most public/mainstream things i've gotten to witness in my time in college and it's what's made me so anti outrage/identity politics. the people that preach that stuff are the literal scum of the earth, and it's being taught in public universitys. It's a major problem.
Hell, my international finance theory professor was so bent on anti Annoying Orange rhetoric that he was teaching incorrect information and kicked people out of class for calling him out for it. It got so bad that in our 45 person class 32 people sent a complaint to the department chair. nothing happened lol

 I'm in a(by college standards) very conservative major in energy management, and yet i've seen how through gen ed classes(like the sociology class that I took freshman year) that many public universities and their professors actually do promote the sort of identity(or in my words, division) politics and fester division by teaching social grouping(people being put into groups based on race, gender, loveual preference, social class, exct) as academic fact. It's what the radical(non blue dog) wing of the democratic party's current foundation is. It's really pretty ironic, as this sort of mentality only causes more division and hate, instead of finding ways that we can be brought together in spite of our differences. it's sad really. hopefully the peaceful promotion of opposing ideals in an academic setting will lead to more INTELECTUAL DIVERSITY on college campuses, something that based on my experiences, we desperately need.

yeah that really sucks. ive been avoiding most of the politicized social sciences at berkeley, but the little ive seen indicated that here its at least not as objectively bad as whats going on on your end. even the extremely political profs here are tolerable - they for the most part keep their beliefs out of actual objective fact-based education. really sucks to hear that going on in your school.

i dont really know enough about whats going on in the broad sense of things regarding politics, but i strongly believe that there needs to be more compromise and tolerance on both sides. too much of modern politics has become ingrained into mass media and thus ephemeral - there appears to be very little actual meaningful long term issues under debate, and rather a lot of shouting over recent events and personal offenses.
those things do matter, but not at the cost of focusing on more systemic and long term issues like the shrinking middle class and climate change/alternative energy, for example
« Last Edit: March 04, 2019, 04:30:54 AM by Conan »

There's no way to tolerate people who won't even let you talk to them to begin with

Don't talk to them at all?

That means literally nothing in this discussion
Often times they'll go out of their way to not listen to you while also preventing you from speaking in the first place
We've seen this behavior on college campuses that host conservative speakers, that one conference with the men's issues that got protested against, etc etc
Instead of either loving off so they don't have to hear you, they'll shout you down or get you shut down, #cancelculture is the name of the game

what if you were developing a cure for aids in your school epi lab for 4 years testing on rats day and night and losing sleep just to put in the hours and suddenly you find a breakthrough that will change the lives of humans and the way we treat hiv and you rush into the Dean's office to report this new inspired development and he's like

sorry bro funding machine broke

what if you were developing a cure for aids in your school epi lab for 4 years testing on rats day and night and losing sleep just to put in the hours and suddenly you find a breakthrough that will change the lives of humans and the way we treat hiv and you rush into the Dean's office to report this new inspired development and he's like

sorry bro funding machine broke
Continue research elsewhere?

Also all they have to do to avoid these situations, is not censor people.

Continue research elsewhere?

Also all they have to do to avoid these situations, is not censor people.
you aren't censoring people by researching aids on test rats. Also I have no clue what 'continue research elsewhere' means in this context and I doubt you do. I get the sense you think you can just teleport to research labs anywhere in the world at will like they're just public facilities that don't require a master's degree and 8 years of work experience to gain access to
« Last Edit: March 04, 2019, 09:17:50 AM by PhantOS »

you aren't censoring people by researching aids on test rats
?!?!

Parts of one side of the college can and will effect other parts of the college. This is also the case in pretty much any company, no stuff it's not fair. But in this case, unlike many others, this would be entirely avoidable. And the option to avoid this is for the college to NOT censor people.

?!?!

Parts of one side of the college can and will effect other parts of the college. This is also the case in pretty much any company, no stuff it's not fair. But in this case, unlike many others, this would be entirely avoidable. And the option to avoid this is for the college to NOT censor people.
or maybe this bill should be focused on reprimanding the staff and students who censor free speech rather than taking away research funds, the same funds that have supported the development of over 75% of all technology ever developed on earth, the same technology that has helped the lives of billions of conservative and liberal americans.

You make stuffty forum themes right? you know the guy who made php had most of his research on web programming funded by his college? If a bill like this passed in Canada and one random student he had no relation to decided to punch some libertarian handicap, this forum might've never existed

Whenever the CEO of a research company outs as a national socialist or says some controversial stuff the government doesn't stop paying them in tax dollars, they just make that guy resign. Why not do the same for colleges
« Last Edit: March 04, 2019, 09:28:37 AM by PhantOS »

or maybe this bill should be focused on reprimanding the staff and students who censor free speech rather than taking away research funds, the same funds that have supported the development of over 75% of all technology ever developed on earth, the same technology that has helped the lives of billions of conservative and liberal americans.

You make stuffty forum themes right? you know the guy who made php had most of his research on web programming funded by his college? If a bill like this passed in Canada and one random student he had no relation to decided to punch some libertarian handicap, this forum might've never existed
This is a preventative measure. No decently intelligent college is going to sacrifice their economic stability to continue censoring people to pander to their students. If they do, then they weren't a college worth keeping because if they were too stupid not to stop censoring people in exchange for still getting money, then they were too stupid to continue operating. All this "Colleges did this!1!!111" argument is doing is completely ignoring the real issues and creating ones that will not exist. And if some great ideas are lost because of this, then that is unfortunate, but It's not worth sacrificing Freedom of Speech for arbitrary bullstuff like that.

And if some great ideas are lost because of this, then that is unfortunate, but It's not worth sacrificing Freedom of Speech for arbitrary bullstuff like that.
imagine considering 95% of the trained skilled workforce 'arbitrary bullstuff'. At this point I'm completely convinced you've never set foot on a college campus in your life

imagine considering 95% of the trained skilled workforce 'arbitrary bullstuff'. At this point I'm completely convinced you've never set foot on a college campus in your life
95% of the workforce isn't on college campuses, what the forget are you talking about.

threads like this make me remember how far we've strayed away from Blockland itself. Remember that game? With the legos? I do.

threads like this make me remember how far we've strayed away from Blockland itself. Remember that game? With the legos? I do.
this is the off-topic board. the whole point is to stray from blockland