Outerworlds to be 1 year Epic Store exclusive

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Mr Queeba:

--- Quote from: Conan on March 21, 2019, 02:28:38 PM ---< people getting mad epic games is trying to make money

its pretty obvious epic games is putting up a big fight in trying to muscle in on steam territory. dunno whats there to be mad about, this might actually make steam pick up their pace and try to be competitive for once (ex: fix longstanding qol/usability/optimization issues with steam, better content policing and sales, etc)

gamers benefit from this competition and fighting long run, cause it'll make these platforms offer better sale cuts/funding opportunities for exclusive rights to game dev studios, in an attempt to attract developers to their platform. this means devs have more money to work with and make better games. the worst case scenario where steam dies is if steam gets complacent like blackberry did to apple and ignores the competition.

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except that epic isn't actually competing by having a better service (which i would be fine with), they're simply using forced exclusivity where they bribe developers to force games onto their platform. epic itself has several issues, with complaints lodged against it's issues with payments, crappy support system, severe lack of features in comparison to steam, etc. epic, being a multi billion dollar company, should have the resources to fix these issues. in addition, it is a slap in the face that games are being advertised as being available on steam and then suddenly some time later they go "YEET" and force the game to be epic exclusive, delaying the steam release for over a year.

Ceist:
Also comparing market cornering to QOL issues is a horrible comparison. Steam isn't perfect sure but what problems are there really? I haven't had any major problems, and sure while any problems fixed are welcome, making their problems comparable is essentially saying "Steam has problems, and Epic doesn't have any." When the whole argument and anger has been Epic being a problem itself rather than a feature it has or lack thereof.

Conan:
forced exclusivity and bigger cut of sales to studios is still more money going to developers tho, regardless of how heavy handed the tactic is. its kinda dirty but its not as unethical as people seem to make it out to be. no matter how heavy handed the tactics are, if epic games' launcher is garbage, people will leave after some time or bypass using the launcher (eg externally launching the games and only using the launcher to download it). these exclusivity things arent permanent either, as apparent when devs promise to release on steam a year later (probably after their exclusivity contract with epic is up)

i believe in the invisible gamer hand of the gamer market in determining if epic will survive after it stops doing these forced draws to their platform. they cant do this forever (as its not very profitable to give away money and also promise a bigger cut than steam) and savvy devs will demand larger payouts to be exclusive going forward, due to all of the negative media attention surrounding exclusivity announcements

Ceist:

--- Quote from: Conan on March 21, 2019, 10:17:58 PM ---forced exclusivity and bigger cut of sales to studios is still more money going to developers tho, regardless of how heavy handed the tactic is. its kinda dirty but its not as unethical as people seem to make it out to be. no matter how heavy handed the tactics are, if epic games' launcher is garbage, people will leave after some time or bypass using the launcher (eg externally launching the games and only using the launcher to download it). these exclusivity things arent permanent either, as apparent when devs promise to release on steam a year later (probably after their exclusivity contract with epic is up)

i believe in the invisible gamer hand of the gamer market in determining if epic will survive after it stops doing these forced draws to their platform. they cant do this forever (as its not very profitable to give away money and also promise a bigger cut than steam) and savvy devs will demand larger payouts to be exclusive going forward, due to all of the negative media attention surrounding exclusivity announcements

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It actually is unethical. It's lying. Lying is unethical. All games that are exclusive right now were shown and promised on other platforms.

I can't say I believe in this invisible gamer hand, because looking at triple-A titles coming out that are absolute trash and seeing the reaction towards them, but I hope you're right.

PhantOS:
they are coming to other platforms, saying that theyre lying is an incredible exaggeration

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