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Borderlands 3 to be an epic store exclusive
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PhantOS:
If steam notices that epic games store is a serious threat to their Monopoly as the only reliable gaming platform they'll have to change their developer services and standards in order to compete. Right now steam is entirely complacent in the lack of quality of their launches and revenue splits (look at daily launches) and epic has a chance to completely force steam to readjust their methods in order to better suit everyone

The best case scenario epic becomes a valid competitor and steam improves to match the competition, giving better game vetting and revenue splits which will increase the incentive to make new games. Worst case scenario steam fails to keep up and gets killed by epic games, the currently superior game platform. Either way both developers and gamers win.
Alkatjo:
Someone's literally got their nose up epic's ass. To each their own, but holy forget.
PhantOS:

--- Quote from: Alkatjo on April 01, 2019, 08:43:25 PM ---Someone's literally got their nose up epic's ass. To each their own, but holy forget.

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as opposed to having your nose up steam's ass to the point that you refuse to buy a game because it's not on steam? lol. To each their own, but holy forget.

why should i vocally support steam over epic? what incentive is there to defend a visibly inferior platform? i like epic because when i buy a game on there the creators who worked for years on their game get 88% of my money, not 70%. thats thousands of extra dollars they get to put towards making their next game project a quality product. i see no reason to buy on steam when epic is objectively better for developers. they're the ones who are actually doing the real work here, spending over 10,000 hours working on providing a service i only have to pay for with 2 hours of work. if i have the chance to give them more money without actually having to pay extra, i'll loving take it

every single 'forget epic' person on this planet is basically either a libertarian privacy nut who runs a vpn 24/7 or a consumerist starfish who only cares about games if they're more than 80% off on sale. they just want this whole marketplace tailored to their needs without any thought about the providers welfare or say
Alkatjo:
You're actually the 1%. While everyone else is fine with their data and stuff being sold (i mean who isn't at this point), actively taking up proverbial arms against a free market tyrant because you think the profit split is unfair is...radical. I don't condone the data stuff, i don't condone shady practices, but i'm fine with having once centralized source of media. I'm fine with having a monopoly because it's a commodity. It's centralized, it's convenient. We're not charged extra for games, refunds still exist, and we're free to choose what we play and who we play it with.

Under no circumstances am i about to install 4/5 other launchers to play games when i can play virtually all of them through steam, both officially inhouse and through 3rd party plugins/applications that allow me to access that content through steam, and organize it within the library.

Also the profit split margin "make vs. break" ratio is negligible, in that, the potential profits of steam are higher in some cases than the epic/origin/discord fiasco on the fact that steam is widely known and is still viewed more than all other game media platforms combined. They're losing more money from exposure, or the lack thereof. And no one is forcing producers, publishers, or indie startups to put their products on steam, because they know about the split, they're aware and they're accepting of that. In their world, in order to break even from thousands of hours of development, in order to make a sale, you need one thing. Viewership.

Exposure is everything, marketing is everything. Publicity, views, capital. THAT matters. Putting a game on the epic store is the equivalent of starting your expensive law firm in the Alaskan wilderness.

I don't mean to bash epic, because i want to see them force steam to step out of their comfort bubble, but at the same time i'm a neat person and like all of my media organised in a concise and clear fashion. There can't be order when there are ten or more so media platforms that all take up space and all conveniently claim to do everything else the competitors do, but "better".
Grimlock²:
The amount of backlash 2K is about to get for this might actually get them to put the game on steam once it's official. absolutely unacceptable.
 
--- Quote from: PhantOS on April 01, 2019, 05:15:56 PM ---If steam notices that epic games store is a serious threat to their Monopoly as the only reliable gaming platform they'll have to change their developer services and standards in order to compete. Right now steam is entirely complacent in the lack of quality of their launches and revenue splits (look at daily launches) and epic has a chance to completely force steam to readjust their methods in order to better suit everyone

The best case scenario epic becomes a valid competitor and steam improves to match the competition, giving better game vetting and revenue splits which will increase the incentive to make new games. Worst case scenario steam fails to keep up and gets killed by epic games, the currently superior game platform. Either way both developers and gamers win.

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Epic games is close to the level of EA in my book, and if you think that EGS/EGL is the superior platform you're so stupid it's not even worth having an argument. That's a master matthew political thread level of bad take. Steam has its issues but compared to EGS/EGL? not even loving comparable.
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