Off Topic > Games
china's impact on the future of videogames
Conan:
like yeah, advocate for change, freedom, democracy, whatever. there's better channels to do so (ex vote/support your government officials, attend protests, send donations, etc). don't demand or expect a game company to nuke its own playerbase, esp considering game companies/dev studios are generally pretty volatile. big game companies that can take the hit are too corporate/have fiduciary duty to make a strong stance.
Ceist:
we're past the point of being neutral. forget china and forget the money. if this sheds more international light of the problem that is the chinese government, then good. they deserve no sympathy, and due process has already concluded that they're beyond salvation and need to be put to the chopping block
millions of Uighurs are being either exterminated or placed into labor/reeducation camps.
the whole of Hong Kong is being subjected to the brutality that is their police state.
their government disregards literally everyone else simply to maintain power, control, and profit, at the cost of its own citizenry, but also others. am i really living in the free world if the chinese government can dictate what I say/see/hear simply because they have a major population?
like i said before, if it was anything other than China, it would've been placed on a pedestal. This is garbage double-standards.
we all clearly understand what happening is wrong, so why bother defending the companies too? they're complicit in being complacent. i understand the logic of profiteering, but forget that, these are other people's lives.
if we're going to deny this person the podium for speaking of political opinions, we need to go ahead and place this standard on everyone else that tries to raise awareness.
edit: and don't forget the mass pollution that's contributing to our planets weakening biosphere
Googalini:
--- Quote from: Conan on October 08, 2019, 01:50:35 PM ---you want other games to have the political commentary and toxicity you see here?
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Appeasing to any inhumane authoritarian governments isn't American, and I think you're a filthy loving redcoat for saying that.
Vigil:
--- Quote from: Conan on October 08, 2019, 04:06:50 AM ---imo politics should stay the forget out of games. games are meant to be fun and entertaining, not a battleground for politics or a platform to proselytize. inherently ruins the fun.
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Why cant games be political? What line is drawn that games, and subsequently entertainment as a whole, cannot contain political messages? forget, most games with any bit of story is far far more than likely to be inspired or representative of some kind of political stance, whether by metaphor or directness. Art & expression is intrinsically tied with politics, we've seen this for eons. Should music be next? "Apolitical entertainment" is reinforcing that only big companies should make entertainment, & that they are utterly scrubbed of any political bias (which is humanly impossible).
Conan:
--- Quote from: Vigil on October 09, 2019, 12:03:31 AM ---Why cant games be political? What line is drawn that games, and subsequently entertainment as a whole, cannot contain political messages? forget, most games with any bit of story is far far more than likely to be inspired or representative of some kind of political stance, whether by metaphor or directness. Art & expression is intrinsically tied with politics, we've seen this for eons. Should music be next? "Apolitical entertainment" is reinforcing that only big companies should make entertainment, & that they are utterly scrubbed of any political bias (which is humanly impossible).
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im not saying it cant/shouldnt be, but i dont like the expectation that they should be if given the chance/forced into it. lambasting a company for not wanting to doesnt sit right with me. it feels like if i was asked to take a political stance, and i refused to, i get immediately labeled as a [insert questioner’s opposing side here] supporter. why should companies be exempt from having the choice not to take a side?