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| lordician:
--- Quote from: sleep on October 12, 2019, 08:20:31 AM ---go escape in a videogame im not wasting time explaining why your opinion is repulsively selfish --- End quote --- You do not need to, i explicitly state it and yet you take the time to underline that in a ridiculous way. Very unnecessary and it really makes it harder to take things you say serious. But you are right, it is an incredibly selfish way of thinking and i should think more of the minorities. I am trying to improve on that, but in a way that i feel comfortable with, just like everyone else. I do admire the intensity that you bring to move people out of their comfort zone and do something, i could use a little bit of that myself. I hope you are capable of using that in other situations as well. I would like to say however, that it might be useful to take a bit of a step back sometimes, not everyone responds well to the more intense approach and it can lead them into a very defensive state which makes it even harder to move them to do something. Anyway more on-topic, seems like Blizzard had some time to think about what they did and they decided to shorten the time Blitzchung cannot compete in tournaments, only ban the casters for six months and grant Blitzchung his prize money after all. (Source: https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/blizzard/23185888/regarding-last-weekend-s-hearthstone-grandmasters-tournament ) I know it is not perfect and it still does not explain the difference in the reaction on Blitzchung and the American University's actions, but they seem to be responding to everything that is going on, i think that is safe to say. A lot of casters have announced to step away from Blizzard (for some time at least) as well in the meantime. Overall, things are still not fine and it is good to see so many people supporting the message and movement. I just hope that we can find a point, together, that we can all be content with and not just want to "see the world burn" as it were. Because sometimes it is hard to draw a line, whether that be a line from which you start to act, or a line from which you are content with the actions that are taken. Wanting change is good, but you can't change everything immediately. Work on changing it, but do not lose yourself or your goal in the heat. |
| Conan:
--- Quote from: sleep on October 12, 2019, 08:20:31 AM ---go escape in a videogame im not wasting time explaining why your opinion is repulsively selfish --- End quote --- are companies supposed to not be? how else would they make money? yes, there's a point where its excessively selfish and at the detriment of users, but you really haven't put down a convincing case explaining why in general companies should let users use their platform for anything they want to say. blizzard definitely is outing themselves as interested in the chinese market more than "the right thing", but that doesn't mean every other company which is being careful about the issue is inherently siding with china, or that every other company should let their users use them for political purposes. isn't that kind of selfish of you (and everyone else who thinks similarly) to expect others to cater to your demands? |
| Googalini:
--- Quote from: Conan on October 12, 2019, 04:08:06 PM ---are companies supposed to not be? how else would they make money? yes, there's a point where its excessively selfish and at the detriment of users, but you really haven't put down a convincing case explaining why in general companies should let users use their platform for anything they want to say. blizzard definitely is outing themselves as interested in the chinese market more than "the right thing", but that doesn't mean every other company which is being careful about the issue is inherently siding with china, or that every other company should let their users use them for political purposes. isn't that kind of selfish of you (and everyone else who thinks similarly) to expect others to cater to your demands? --- End quote --- This has to be the worst opinion on the history of the internet. Do you still show your support when companies are led by child enthusiasts? No company should favor an oppressive totalitarian government. Favoring the collective material over the collective people is the most soulless thing a person can do. People are losing their freedoms by lobbyist companies and greedy jewish bankers controlling the press and the media and you're worried that one of those companies are losing MONEY?! |
| kongo:
part of the contract for being in official blizzard streams(?) is no soapboxing. if pushing a political agenda isn't soapboxing i can't say i know what is. you don't have to think blizzard did what was right (i don't) to understand the contract the guy signed on for. he should've been kicked off if he made any political statement. also i've gotta say i don't want real politics in loving video games. i dont care that karthus had his face covered because the chinese don't like skulls and i don't care that they changed hecarim's armor to appease china. the minute i have to deal with politics in competitive video games where politics doesn't have a place beyond whatever fictional events take place in the game is the minute the video game is no longer a video game and is a stuffty political agenda. |
| Conan:
--- Quote from: Googalini on October 12, 2019, 05:36:29 PM ---This has to be the worst opinion on the history of the internet. Do you still show your support when companies are led by child enthusiasts? No company should favor an oppressive totalitarian government. Favoring the collective material over the collective people is the most soulless thing a person can do. People are losing their freedoms by lobbyist companies and greedy jewish bankers controlling the press and the media and you're worried that one of those companies are losing MONEY?! --- End quote --- you're missing the point - as kongo said, its about letting your product be used as a soapbox. its not about the company's beliefs/company leadership's beliefs, its about other people using the company to spread their views. if you were running a store, are you morally wrong for not letting protesters/activists stand in your shop entrance and loudly demanding all your customers to join their cause? |
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