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china's impact on the future of videogames
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lordician:

--- Quote from: Googalini on October 12, 2019, 05:36:29 PM ---This has to be the worst opinion on the history of the internet. Do you still show your support when companies are led by child enthusiasts? No company should favor an oppressive totalitarian government. Favoring the collective material over the collective people is the most soulless thing a person can do. People are losing their freedoms by lobbyist companies and greedy jewish bankers controlling the press and the media and you're worried that one of those companies are losing MONEY?!

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Somehow, in this world, grey areas exist.

Comparing Blizzard with a company run by child enthusiasts is a very bad example in multiple ways as well.
If a company would be led by child enthusiasts, that would be bad and i would be in favor of them being removed from that position, but that does not mean the entire company is inherently bad.
I mean sure, you gotta think twice about the decision that the leaders would take, but anything that is done by people in the company whom are not child enthusiasts are not necessarily acting in that way.

Also the situation at hand is that Blizzard is not run by the Chinese government, but they have a big stake in the Chinese market which influences their decisions.
No conspiracy there. Just acting on profit sake. Which is... not very strange for a company to do. People trying to make a living there.
Does that mean acting the way they did is good? No, not really. But they are not directly controlled by the Chinese.

Another thing i wonder is what Jewish bankers have to do with this whole thing?
QUICK-EDIT:

--- Quote from: Conan on October 12, 2019, 08:04:55 PM ---if you were running a store, are you morally wrong for not letting protesters/activists stand in your shop entrance and loudly demanding people to join their cause?

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Actually, i would say it is a grey area really. You would certainly not be helping them in their cause, which might be obstructing something good from happening, but on the same time, you would be in your right to ask them to leave and if they don't, act with appropriate measures for obstructing you from doing your work.
What is right and wrong becomes a bit of a mess in that scenario and that is why we have laws and rules in place that help to find out whom is more in their right then the other.

But yeah, using a company/product as soapbox is overall not cool man. If they would accept it, what stop others from using them/their product as soapbox for other causes?
Who will determine when it is okay to do so and when not? It just becomes a right mess. To prevent that, there are rules and they can and will act accordingly.
The problem here is that the rules Blizzard has in place are very open to interpretation and they can decide when to apply it and when not basically, which leaves room for a wrong interpretation of their actions or in some cases, leaves room for them abusing the rules for the wrong purposes.
Conan:

--- Quote from: Googalini on October 12, 2019, 05:39:00 PM ---

Ha, you just tried to lick a 3d model! You fool!

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pm'ing this to me just confirms you also aren't arguing in good faith either. i wonder if you would still say the same stuff you are saying if you owned a company that's being targeted similar to how riot/blizzard is.
Googalini:

--- Quote from: lordician on October 12, 2019, 08:12:09 PM ---.

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Morality over profit. Having good morals makes a good company, bad morals makes a bad company. There is no neutral. Being neutral is being automatically bad to both sides, and it makes you look like a coward.


--- Quote from: Conan on October 12, 2019, 08:36:24 PM ---pm'ing this to me just confirms you also aren't arguing in good faith either. i wonder if you would still say the same stuff you are saying if you owned a company that's being targeted similar to how riot/blizzard is.

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Are you gonna lick it or not? If I owned a company, I would make sure I bend no knees to the government.
lordician:

--- Quote from: Googalini on October 13, 2019, 07:15:36 PM ---If I owned a company, I would make sure I bend no knees to the government.

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That is a nice idea, however, your company will have to make do with existing laws and rules that come from the government.
Otherwise, it will be closed down really fast.

--- Quote from: Googalini on October 13, 2019, 07:15:36 PM ---Morality over profit. Having good morals makes a good company, bad morals makes a bad company. There is no neutral. Being neutral is being automatically bad to both sides, and it makes you look like a coward.

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That is a very negative way to think about it, but alright.
phflack:

--- Quote from: Googalini on October 13, 2019, 07:15:36 PM ---If I owned a company, I would make sure I bend no knees to the government.

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"paying taxes is for chumps"
curious how fast you'll go to jail for that
also pretty sure they will use force if necessary
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