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Tournaments Season Four: New Weapons! New Maps! Happy Birthday!
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PhantOS:
you shouldn't announce nerfs to the public because nocebo can be really powerful and people will think the weapons are now worse than they actually are.

hiding nerfs leads people to think that stuffty weapons are overpowered and you can laugh at them when they tell you to nerf it even though you already did
skill4life:

--- Quote from: PhantOS on March 18, 2020, 02:16:03 AM ---you shouldn't announce nerfs to the public because nocebo can be really powerful and people will think the weapons are now worse than they actually are.

hiding nerfs leads people to think that stuffty weapons are overpowered and you can laugh at them when they tell you to nerf it even though you already did

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a damage nerf is hard to notice sure, but changing the reload time of the missile l to be slower than the default rocket launcher is pretty abrupt and noticeable.


--- Quote from: Gytyyhgfffff on March 17, 2020, 11:48:49 PM ---i'm trying to re purpose the missile l into a non-rush weapon. i wanted to try to make something that wasn't a rush weapon since every other weapon is basically a rush weapon

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why do this its so anti-fun
every other weapon still IS a rush weapon, but now with missile l your reload time is so long that the dude in front of you hit you twice or knocked you back before you can get your second shot off
id honestly rather have you nerf splash damage again before messing up something as important as reload time like this, especially if you're trying to make it a "more precise weapon"

Blockhead31735:
Kill the chaingun now. All will be well again.

Also kill hammer. There's no reason to wait 9 days when it's an ass map now.
PhantOS:

--- Quote from: skill4life on March 18, 2020, 06:55:50 AM ---a damage nerf is hard to notice sure, but changing the reload time of the missile l to be slower than the default rocket launcher is pretty abrupt and noticeable.
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reload times are also hard to notice unless they're significant like a half a second longer. our minds often have trouble gauging the speed of audio which is why often when we listen to certain songs we'll think its playing slower or faster than usual.


--- Quote from: skill4life on March 18, 2020, 06:55:50 AM ---why do this its so anti-fun
every other weapon still IS a rush weapon, but now with missile l your reload time is so long that the dude in front of you hit you twice or knocked you back before you can get your second shot off
id honestly rather have you nerf splash damage again before messing up something as important as reload time like this, especially if you're trying to make it a "more precise weapon"

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missile is a powerful rush weapon because unlike other rush weapons your shots displace enemies forcing them to miss and other stuff. if anything a better nerf than firing speed would be knockback radius
Gytyyhgfffff:
for reference, the reload increase was from 0.64 seconds to 0.84 seconds
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