U.S.A. Politics Thread

[mod-man]

That's the thing, we know the system is corrupt because there's countless pieces of evidence of Annoying Orange's corruption both as a private citizen and as president, and flight log proof he was on the lolita express.

Nothing will happen to Hunter in the same way nothing has or will happen to Annoying Orange because the oligarchy needs it not to

we will see. i duly hope hunter will be the exception to the rule and hopefully the straw that breaks the camels back and we can usher in a new era of.. i dont know really. just something better.

theres a report coming out soon, likely next month, that will detail every single thing hunter has done wrong, along with all the evidence and legal statutes one would need to do something about it. it'll be the first example ive seen in my life time where someone high in the system was caught, thoroughly brown townyzed, all the evidence of his crimes were given to the public rather than locked up in some alphabet soup intelligence agencies vault, and its all wrapped up in a nice report that will be easily digestible from start to finish, rather than having to piece together schizoid 4chan theories.

the ball will actually be in the peoples court for real, and if the people decide its not worth pursuing? well then so be it, we chose to continue down this doomed timeline. but at least it was an educated decision

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[Swholli]

Oh, the rightoid's will have a field day if such a thing were to drop, I assure you.

The problem is that as soon as we start actually holding powerful people accountable for crimes they commit, glorious leader's get prosecuted too.

But then, no one in any state of power in this corpse of a country has a spine so

[mod-man]

Oh, the rightoid's will have a field day if such a thing were to drop, I assure you.

everyone on both aisles should be having a field day about it

The problem is that as soon as we start actually holding powerful people accountable for crimes they commit, glorious leader's get prosecuted too.

there is no problem with holding powerful people accountable for crimes they commit. we are the employers. they are our employees. i know it doesn't seem that way now, but it used to be that once upon a time ago and we will either force our way back into that position or die
 

[Swholli]

there is no problem with holding powerful people accountable for crimes they commit. we are the employers. they are our employees. i know it doesn't seem that way now, but it used to be that once upon a time ago and we will either force our way back into that position or die

Fundamentally I agree with you, but the ruling class has only ever served the ruling class. I used to be optimistic about the state of our nation and that "eventually" the "right" people would be voted into power and change the system for the better, but time has only proven that to not be so.

Now that being said, I'm not a doomer. There will be a revolution in this country of some kind at some point, but it's not going to be by using the system/state as it exists currently, just hope it's before it's too late/ the planet literally catches fire.

[ultimamax]

we will see. i duly hope hunter will be the exception to the rule and hopefully the straw that breaks the camels back and we can usher in a new era of.. i dont know really. just something better.

theres a report coming out soon, likely next month, that will detail every single thing hunter has done wrong, along with all the evidence and legal statutes one would need to do something about it. it'll be the first example ive seen in my life time where someone high in the system was caught, thoroughly brown townyzed, all the evidence of his crimes were given to the public rather than locked up in some alphabet soup intelligence agencies vault, and its all wrapped up in a nice report that will be easily digestible from start to finish, rather than having to piece together schizoid 4chan theories.

the ball will actually be in the peoples court for real, and if the people decide its not worth pursuing? well then so be it, we chose to continue down this doomed timeline. but at least it was an educated decision

dont really understand how prosecuting hunter biden would be "the straw that breaks the camel's back" in any sense. he's not even part of the government. also unclear how youre actually gonna get the government to act on whatever information is in this report, federal law enforcement can basically stall indefinitely on prosecuting people like him. not to mention it would be an act of career Self Delete for a federal agent to build a case against him, without some kind of backing from powerful powerbrokers

if the rest of peoples interests lie where mine do, its a cathartic release to catch these higher ups before they can sweep it under the rug. they did it successfully with jeffery epstein, and they tried the exact same thing with hunter but hunter and the FBI dropped the ball too hard. if theres anything i or anyone else can do about it we're not letting them get away with it again. even if hunter walks, at least someone will know what he really is
cool. have you ever violated the Mann Act by buying amtrak tickets for hookers to ride from boston to your cool NYC apartment to forget them and then promptly ship them back? did you get freebux from the CCP sent to your front company so that you, your uncle, and his wife can blow it all on drugs and rolexes?

1. they didnt really "succeed" at all with prosecuting jeffery epstein, it's clear at this point that there's never going to be a serious investigation into the people in his black book, and all of the loose ends have been tied up
2. having a hooker cross state lines and wasting the CCP's money on drugs dont seem like horrible actions to me. i dont think most people find that objectionable. and from what i understand there isnt bulletproof evidence that hes a creep

it's basically just the mueller probe russia hysteria for rightwingers

[mod-man]

dont really understand how prosecuting hunter biden would be "the straw that breaks the camel's back" in any sense.

it probably wouldn't be. i just hope something will change or it will boost morale or something. it would just be nice to see

he's not even part of the government. also unclear how youre actually gonna get the government to act on whatever information is in this report, federal law enforcement can basically stall indefinitely on prosecuting people like him. not to mention it would be an act of career Self Delete for a federal agent to build a case against him, without some kind of backing from powerful powerbrokers

his father is the president. joe biden has lied many times about his knowledge of his sons work. joe also used his power to curb lawyers from investigating his son by threatening their jobs. the people can push on their law makers to do things. they have phone numbers you can call. you can speak to your representatives this very moment if you wanted to. ive done it numerous times. the power of the people is real so long as they band together under a common interest.

1. they didnt really "succeed" at all with prosecuting jeffery epstein, it's clear at this point that there's never going to be a serious investigation into the people in his black book, and all of the loose ends have been tied up

i never said a thing about them prosecuting jeffery. i said they successfully swept him under the rug. we never saw his black book entirely. we never saw the pictures, videos, and whatever else he had on those hard drives, which personally i think we deserve to see. if so many of our "empolyees" are blackmailed by this, i think thats something we deserve to definitively know. its one thing to be told such thing is true. its another thing almost entirely to actually see it and witness it for yourself.

2. having a hooker cross state lines and wasting the CCP's money on drugs dont seem like horrible actions to me. i dont think most people find that objectionable.

if you think that, thats fine. its against the law. paying transportation for women to cross state lines specifically for love and only love, especially where prostitution is illegal, is against the law. its akin to human trafficking. the Mann Act was put in place specifically to protect women from that. intermingling with foreign adversaries and being such a documented degenerate makes you malleable, blackmailable, and a threat to national security if your family runs america. if you're going to break the law, don't get caught. especially by doing something as stupid as just leaving incriminating evidence at a repair shop with an "ownership after 40 days" policy

and from what i understand there isnt bulletproof evidence that hes a creep

there is no hard evidence in terms of him having love with children or anything like that. there are however a slew of compromising photos of his (at the time) underaged niece that are obvious violations of privacy, since he had access to her devices as well. there are also photos he took of her himself that would seriously give foundation to a lot of the loveual accusations made against him. both by randos on the internet and his own family members.

it might be another mueller situation, and yeah maybe nothing will happen. ive just never seen such a situation so accessible and in your face before. it feels different for some reason

[Deus Ex]

Just keep riding with biden fellas im sure it'll work out next time

[Swholli]

it feels different for some reason

Man, and I mean this with no exaggeration or joke, I wish I had that kind of optimism about American politics

[Foxscotch]

riding with biden

this doesn't even rhyme. you can say "ridin" nobody will make fun of you

[Masterlegodude]

this doesn't even rhyme. you can say "ridin" nobody will make fun of you

Tryna catch Deus ridin' dirty

[ultimamax]

ukrainians are congenitally national socialists and we should stop sending them arms just my opinion

[Deus Ex]

better yet we should just glass the entire continent and light this candle already, save the russians some trouble

[Master Matthew²]

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1808/text

Highlights:

Violation of 2A:

To regulate assault weapons, to ensure that the right to keep and bear arms is not unlimited, and for other purposes.

Definition of a "Semiautomatic assault weapon",

(36) The term ‘semiautomatic assault weapon’ means any of the following, regardless of country of manufacture or caliber of ammunition accepted:

“(A) A semiautomatic rifle that—

“(i) has a magazine that is not a fixed magazine; and

“(ii) does have any 1 of the following:

“(I) A pistol grip.

“(II) A forward grip.

“(III) A folding, telescoping, or detachable stock, or is otherwise foldable or adjustable in a manner that operates to reduce the length, size, or any other dimension, or otherwise enhances the concealability, of the weapon.

“(IV) A grenade launcher.

“(V) A barrel shroud.

“(VI) A threaded barrel.

“(B) A semiautomatic rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds, except for an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition.

“(C) Any part, combination of parts, component, device, attachment, or accessory that is designed or functions to accelerate the rate of fire of a semiautomatic firearm but not convert the semiautomatic firearm into a machinegun.

“(D) A semiautomatic pistol that—

“(i) has a magazine that is not a fixed magazine; and

“(ii) does have any 1 of the following:

“(I) A threaded barrel.

“(II) A second pistol grip.

“(III) A barrel shroud.

“(IV) The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip.

“(V) A semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm.

“(VI) A manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more when unloaded.

“(VII) A stabilizing brace or similar component.

“(E) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.

“(F) A semiautomatic shotgun that—

“(i) has the capacity to utilize a magazine that is not a fixed magazine; and

“(ii) does have any 1 of the following:

“(I) A folding, telescoping, or detachable stock.

“(II) A pistol grip or bird's head grip.

“(III) A fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 5 rounds.

“(IV) The ability to accept a detachable magazine.

“(V) A forward grip.

“(VI) A grenade launcher.

“(G) Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

“(H) All of the following rifles, copies, duplicates, variants, or altered facsimiles with the capability of any such weapon thereof:

“(i) All AK types, including the following:

“(I) AK, AK47, AK47S, AK–74, AKM, AKS, ARM, MAK90, MISR, NHM90, NHM91, Rock River Arms LAR–47, SA85, SA93, Vector Arms AK–47, VEPR, WASR–10, and WUM.

“(II) IZHMASH Saiga AK.

“(III) MAADI AK47 and ARM.

“(IV) Norinco 56S, 56S2, 84S, and 86S.

“(V) Poly Technologies AK47 and AKS.

“(VI) SKS with a detachable magazine.

“(ii) All AR types, including the following:

“(I) AR–10.

“(II) AR–15.

“(III) Alexander Arms Overmatch Plus 16.

“(IV) Armalite M15 22LR Carbine.

“(V) Armalite M15–T.

“(VI) Barrett REC7.

“(VII) Beretta AR–70.

“(VIII) Black Rain Ordnance Recon Scout.

“(IX) Bushmaster ACR.

“(X) Bushmaster Carbon 15.

“(XI) Bushmaster MOE series.

“(XII) Bushmaster XM15.

“(XIII) Chiappa Firearms MFour rifles.

“(XIV) Colt Match Target rifles.

“(XV) CORE Rifle Systems CORE15 rifles.

“(XVI) Daniel Defense M4A1 rifles.

“(XVII) Devil Dog Arms 15 Series rifles.

“(XVIII) Diamondback DB15 rifles.

“(XIX) DoubleStar AR rifles.

“(XX) DPMS Tactical rifles.

“(XXI) DSA Inc. ZM–4 Carbine.

“(XXII) Heckler & Koch MR556.

“(XXIII) High Standard HSA–15 rifles.

“(XXIV) Jesse James Nomad AR–15 rifle.

“(XXV) Knight’s Armament SR–15.

“(XXVI) Lancer L15 rifles.

“(XXVII) MGI Hydra Series rifles.

“(XXVIII) Mossberg MMR Tactical rifles.

“(XXIX) Noreen Firearms BN 36 rifle.

“(XXX) Olympic Arms.

“(XXXI) POF USA P415.

“(XXXII) Precision Firearms AR rifles.

“(XXXIII) Remington R–15 rifles.

“(XXXIV) Rhino Arms AR rifles.

“(XXXV) Rock River Arms LAR–15.

“(XXXVI) Sig Sauer SIG516 rifles and MCX rifles.

“(XXXVII) Smith & Wesson M&P15 rifles.

“(XXXVIII) Stag Arms AR rifles.

“(XXXIX) Sturm, Ruger & Co. SR556 and AR–556 rifles.

“(XL) Uselton Arms Air-Lite M–4 rifles.

“(XLI) Windham Weaponry AR rifles.

“(XLII) WMD Guns Big Beast.

“(XLIII) Yankee Hill Machine Company, Inc. YHM–15 rifles.

“(iii) Barrett M107A1.

“(iv) Barrett M82A1.

“(v) Beretta CX4 Storm.

“(vi) Calico Liberty Series.

“(vii) CETME Sporter.

“(viii) Daewoo K–1, K–2, Max 1, Max 2, AR 100, and AR 110C.

“(ix) Fabrique Nationale/FN Herstal FAL, LAR, 22 FNC, 308 Match, L1A1 Sporter, PS90, SCAR, and FS2000.

“(x) Feather Industries AT–9.

“(xi) Galil Model AR and Model ARM.

“(xii) Hi-Point Carbine.

“(xiii) HK–91, HK–93, HK–94, HK–PSG–1, and HK USC.

“(xiv) IWI TAVOR, Galil ACE rifle.

“(xv) Kel-Tec Sub-2000, SU–16, and RFB.

“(xvi) SIG AMT, SIG PE–57, Sig Sauer SG 550, Sig Sauer SG 551, and SIG MCX.

“(xvii) Springfield Armory SAR–48.

“(xviii) Steyr AUG.

“(xix) Sturm, Ruger & Co. Mini-14 Tactical Rifle M–14/20CF.

“(xx) All Thompson rifles, including the following:

“(I) Thompson M1SB.

“(II) Thompson T1100D.

“(III) Thompson T150D.

“(IV) Thompson T1B.

“(V) Thompson T1B100D.

“(VI) Thompson T1B50D.

“(VII) Thompson T1BSB.

“(VIII) Thompson T1–C.

“(IX) Thompson T1D.

“(X) Thompson T1SB.

“(XI) Thompson T5.

“(XII) Thompson T5100D.

“(XIII) Thompson TM1.

“(XIV) Thompson TM1C.

“(xxi) UMAREX UZI rifle.

“(xxii) UZI Mini Carbine, UZI Model A Carbine, and UZI Model B Carbine.

“(xxiii) Valmet M62S, M71S, and M78.

“(xxiv) Vector Arms UZI Type.

“(xxv) Weaver Arms Nighthawk.

“(xxvi) Wilkinson Arms Linda Carbine.

“(I) All of the following pistols, copies, duplicates, variants, or altered facsimiles with the capability of any such weapon thereof:

“(i) All AK types, including the following:

“(I) Centurion 39 AK pistol.

“(II) CZ Scorpion pistol.

“(III) Draco AK–47 pistol.

“(IV) HCR AK–47 pistol.

“(V) IO Inc. Hellpup AK–47 pistol.

“(VI) Krinkov pistol.

“(VII) Mini Draco AK–47 pistol.

“(VIII) PAP M92 pistol.

“(IX) Yugo Krebs Krink pistol.

“(ii) All AR types, including the following:

“(I) American Spirit AR–15 pistol.

“(II) Bushmaster Carbon 15 pistol.

“(III) Chiappa Firearms M4 Pistol GEN II.

“(IV) CORE Rifle Systems CORE15 Roscoe pistol.

“(V) Daniel Defense MK18 pistol.

“(VI) DoubleStar Corporation AR pistol.

“(VII) DPMS AR–15 pistol.

“(VIII) Jesse James Nomad AR–15 pistol.

“(IX) Olympic Arms AR–15 pistol.

“(X) Osprey Armament MK–18 pistol.

“(XI) POF USA AR pistols.

“(XII) Rock River Arms LAR 15 pistol.

“(XIII) Uselton Arms Air-Lite M–4 pistol.

“(iii) Calico pistols.

“(iv) DSA SA58 PKP FAL pistol.

“(v) Encom MP–9 and MP–45.

“(vi) Heckler & Koch model SP–89 pistol.

“(vii) Intratec AB–10, TEC–22 Scorpion, TEC–9, and TEC–DC9.

“(viii) IWI Galil Ace pistol, UZI PRO pistol.

“(ix) Kel-Tec PLR 16 pistol.

“(x) All MAC types, including the following:

“(I) MAC–10.

“(II) MAC–11.

“(III) Masterpiece Arms MPA A930 Mini Pistol, MPA460 Pistol, MPA Tactical Pistol, and MPA Mini Tactical Pistol.

“(IV) Military Armament Corp. Ingram M–11.

“(V) Velocity Arms VMAC.

“(xi) Sig Sauer P556 pistol.

“(xii) Sites Spectre.

“(xiii) All Thompson types, including the following:

“(I) Thompson TA510D.

“(II) Thompson TA5.

“(xiv) All UZI types, including Micro-UZI.

“(J) All of the following shotguns, copies, duplicates, variants, or altered facsimiles with the capability of any such weapon thereof:

“(i) DERYA Anakon MC–1980, Anakon SD12.

“(ii) Doruk Lethal shotguns.

“(iii) Franchi LAW–12 and SPAS 12.

“(iv) All IZHMASH Saiga 12 types, including the following:

“(I) IZHMASH Saiga 12.

“(II) IZHMASH Saiga 12S.

“(III) IZHMASH Saiga 12S EXP–01.

“(IV) IZHMASH Saiga 12K.

“(V) IZHMASH Saiga 12K–030.

“(VI) IZHMASH Saiga 12K–040 Taktika.

“(v) Streetsweeper.

“(vi) Striker 12.

“(K) All belt-fed semiautomatic firearms, including TNW M2HB and FN M2495.

“(L) Any combination of parts from which a firearm described in subparagraphs (A) through (K) can be assembled.

“(M) The frame or receiver of a rifle or shotgun described in subparagraph (A), (B), (C), (F), (G), (H), (J), or (K).

TL;DR as they put it:

The prohibition does not apply to a firearm that is (1) manually operated by bolt, pump, lever, or slide action; (2) permanently inoperable; (3) an antique; or (4) a rifle or shotgun specifically identified by make and model.

[Drydess]

Fundamentally I agree with you, but the ruling class has only ever served the ruling class. I used to be optimistic about the state of our nation and that "eventually" the "right" people would be voted into power and change the system for the better, but time has only proven that to not be so.

Now that being said, I'm not a doomer. There will be a revolution in this country of some kind at some point, but it's not going to be by using the system/state as it exists currently, just hope it's before it's too late/ the planet literally catches fire.

big ups
class unity for elites is nothing new, it just manifests itself in the us government today. the american capacity to self educate has been increasingly prominent though with the internet (esp in the last 6 years), so I've felt good about things for the most part. they're getting more desperate each year since occupy, even just straight up detaining journalists and admitting direct intelligence cooperation with social media companies lol, very dangerous for the public but also makes it way easier to notice that this is real

[Drydess]

better yet we should just glass the entire continent and light this candle already, save the russians some trouble

i am never more proud to be american than when i have to talk to europeans. god bless us