U.S.A. Politics Thread

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Lets read an article from the The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, even they are against mandatory vaccination

https://aapsonline.org/measles-outbreak-and-federal-vaccine-mandates/?fbclid=IwAR3zi4mLli2HMfkXezAX5aTNWyUiNDl6qnl0c0EY3uXL7OSV_CK7FKAJsXE

i can understand that vaccines are dangerous in some situations, such as in cancer patients who have extremely compromised immune systems. but, honestly, i doubt the source that you brought up. i did some searching and the AAPS publishes some weird stuff. among other weird claims (abortions cause breast cancer, etc), they publish stuff that claims HIV doesn't cause aids: https://www.jpands.org/vol12no4/bauer.pdf

JPANDS (the journal AAPS endorses and apparently publishes under) is not listed by other trusted journal aggregates like PubMed and MEDLINE (fun fact i think i've actually used PubMed for cancer research at uni, the stuff they collate is legit) which is usually a good sign that they're not trustworthy when it comes to actual scientific research. as far as actual vaccine research goes, it is well known that it's been shown that vaccines do not cause developmental problems like autism (the original research itself was retracted https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC283167/ after further investigation, other research papers have not been able to find a link between the usage of mercury-related compounds used in vaccines and autism since)

after rereading the post (i noticed an edit and wasn't sure if i was up to date yet) i saw this:
even they
this language suggests you don't know who the AAPS is. while checking your sources, i discovered they are a conservative-run organization that frequently try to sway research whenever it gets political. hence, why they are weighing in on the vaccine debate and why they are saying HIV doesn't cause AIDS (for those who were not born in the 80s like me, HIV was hugely politicized. the regean administration was famously anti-LGBTQ, whom HIV was affecting disproportionately. they were not taking HIV seriously for this reason). they again weigh in on abortion, trying to muddy the water by implying it may cause weird stuff like breast cancer (https://www.jpands.org/vol24no4/skop.pdf, ctrl + f for breast to find the part i'm talking about). again, they weigh in on homoloveuals (https://www.jpands.org/vol10no3/lehrman.pdf): "[T]he “gay” male lifestyle significantly increases the incidence of infectious disease and shortens life expectancy by about 20 years". this article in particular is rather insulting. it implies that homoloveuality is a choice (it isn't) and that this choice (which people don't choose) kills people. the solution they offer is to simply stop being gay (how?). so yeah, AAPS is pretty stuff lol

edit: god damnit i seriously just did all that googling and bullstuff and it turns out wikipedia had a list right there for me. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_American_Physicians_and_Surgeons#Publishing_of_non-mainstream_or_scientifically_discredited_claims here's some of their claims that are not substantiated by any other research institution. trust me, i looked all that stuff one by one lol its all legit

my favorite claim is that they think global warming will be beneficial for humanity
« Last Edit: November 04, 2020, 08:11:45 PM by Gytyyhgfffff »

Quote
For unambiguous certainty that HIV causes AIDS, every AIDS
patient would have to be HIV positive. Indeed, the Durban
Declaration makes that the first of its assertions: “Patients with
acquired immune deficiency syndrome, regardless of where they
live, are infected with HIV.” But that assertion is demonstrably false.
First: Kaposi’s sarcoma (KS) with its purple skin-blotches was
an icon of AIDS in the early 1980s, striking some 4,000 people by
1986, more than 10% of all patients diagnosed as having AIDS. Yet
many KS patients are HIV-negative, and for some 15 years it has
been believed that KS is caused not by HIV but by human herpes
virus 8: “All types of Kaposi’s sarcoma are due to infection with
human herpes virus-8 (HHV-8), which is transmitted loveually or
via blood or saliva.”
Second: By the early 1990s, many reports had accumulated of
clinically diagnosed AIDS patients who were HIV-negative. These
cases were shunted aside by sleight of evidence through the
invention of a brand-new disease, “idiopathic CD4-T-cell
lymphopenia (ICL)” —pathogenic immune deficiency of
unknown cause, which is precisely the same as the definition of
AIDS during the several years before the claimed discovery of HIV.
Note, too, that numerous HIV-positive people have remained
healthy for upwards of two decades while eschewing treatment
interesting

my main point still stands, forced vaccination is an infraction on civil liberty, which is what our country was founded upon.

is paying taxes and having laws that prevent you from taking what you want from others infractions on civil liberties too? where do you draw the line of “this needs to be enforced so society doesn’t collapse into anarchy”/“the government cannot run if we arent required to do this”?

im asking this less as a challenge to your take on vaccines as something that shouldnt be required and more “whats something you can think of that you feel youd be on the fence about doing if it was required by the government”
« Last Edit: November 04, 2020, 08:36:04 PM by Conan »

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is paying taxes and having laws that prevent you from taking what you want from others infractions on civil liberties too? where do you draw the line of “this needs to be enforced so society doesn’t collapse into anarchy”/“the government cannot run if we arent required to do this”?

im asking this less as a challenge to your take on vaccines as something that shouldnt be required and more “whats something you can think of that you feel youd be on the fence about doing if it was required by the government”
I draw the line at civil rights. No government or company should have the right to force any free person to do something they don't want to do, especially if it's injecting them with a new substance that has no studied long-term effects. They way I see it, if the vaccine makes you feel safe, go ahead and get it. If you don't want it and you are a healthy individual you shouldn't be forced, that is called tyranny.

Something I'd be on the fence about it was required by government? Hmm, how about insurance? I think insurance is a wise thing to have, like everyone should have it to protect themselves and others in case of an accident, but I don't think it should be enforced by law.

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