people here in the south suck at driving on the ice. i swear it's the people in the biggest, most compensate-y trucks who drive the worst on it. either they go 5mph on perfectly clear roads, or they drive so fast that they end up in a ditch. or, somehow, they manage to get their truck stuck in the middle of a residential road and need several cops to come help them get un-stuck (this happened back at my home and my dad saw it on his way home from work)