Author Topic: Tails is... forgeted up.  (Read 27805 times)

You can believe whatever you want about what my views as long as you don't flame me for it, or post topics about how my beliefs "suck." That is respect, and that was what I meant. And Linde the argument is over, let it go. We finally reached peace in this topic and you try to start it up again...
I believe that the argument is not over. Now respect my beliefs and continue. You challenged us to prove you wrong, and I did. Suck it up.

I believe it is over, and everyone else (as you can see from the posts when the argument was still going) wants it over. And you didn't prove me wrong, you thought I was calling people who disagree or hate my beliefs morons, but I actually meant that only people who flame me for it are morons because it leads to arguments where no one wins. Here is an example to clarify:

Moronic:
I believe that your beliefs are full of :iceCream:,
Respectful:
I believe that your beliefs are wrong because I have substantial evidence to disprove it.
Also, being respectful like that shows that the person is capable of intelligent thought. Anyways, I regreted making that statement because that is not who I am, I was just responding in anger.

And I really don't want to debate this because you will only see what you want to see from my posts, and I won't admit I am wrong because I don't see it that way.  And it will just continue until someone decides they have something better to do.

I believe it is over, and everyone else (as you can see from the posts when the argument was still going) wants it over. And you didn't prove me wrong, you thought I was calling people who disagree or hate my beliefs morons, but I actually meant that only people who flame me for it are morons because it leads to arguments where no one wins.
"Disrespect" to use your exact word. That's what I do when I say that your belief is full of stuff, (which is a belief by default) and thanks to that one belief I can't respect what you believe in or that you believe in it.

What I said was disrespectful (just to prove my point, mind you):
I believe that your beliefs are full of :iceCream:,
... as opposed to respectful:
I believe that your beliefs are wrong because I have substantial evidence to disprove it.
And even that is disrespectful (even though it's not as obvious as the actual quote), since I attack everything you hold true by saying so. I am saying that you are lying or that you are wrong by disagreeing with your beliefs.

My point here is not to flame you or your particular beliefs, but to show that it is not possible to respect what everyone believes unless you don't believe in anything at all yourself.

Oh, and who are you kidding about not wanting to debate it? It's a forum on the internet. You only have to do what you want.

What the hell, you really can't immediately see what's paradoxal about this statement?

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People who don't respect other people's beliefs are morons

I don't even know what started this, but seriously. Get over it. The more you hold the grudge, the deeper the scar will be made. Stop acting like 7 year olds and stop fighting.

I don't even know what started this, but seriously. Get over it. The more you hold the grudge, the deeper the scar will be made. Stop acting like 7 year olds and stop fighting.
And I really don't want to debate this because you will only see what you want to see from my posts, and I won't admit I am wrong because I don't see it that way.  And it will just continue until someone decides they have something better to do.
I was trying to end it.

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What the hell, you really can't immediately see what's paradoxal about this statement?

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People who don't respect other people's beliefs are morons
Anyways, I regreted making that statement because that is not who I am, I was just responding in anger.
The ability for me to drop the argument and try to get it back on topic shows that I DO respect what other people believe, and I never said "my belief is better than anyone else's" I just wanted people to realize that saying what I believe is wrong is offensive.

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And even that is disrespectful (even though it's not as obvious as the actual quote), since I attack everything you hold true by saying so. I am saying that you are lying or that you are wrong by disagreeing with your beliefs.

My point here is not to flame you or your particular beliefs, but to show that it is not possible to respect what everyone believes unless you don't believe in anything at all yourself.

Oh, and who are you kidding about not wanting to debate it? It's a forum on the internet. You only have to do what you want.
Okay this is getting annoying.

You can believe my views are full of sh** but if you don't FLAME me and you instead structure your argument into something intelligent, that is respect. You are RESPECTFULLY DISAGREEING with what I have to say.

You think you are right and nothing will convince you otherwise, that is why I don't want to debate this. Everybody else knew it wasn't smart to get involved, not because I was right, not because I was wrong, but because it is foolish to debate with people who will never believe anything else. Debates like this will just lead to more and more posts with less intelligent thought and more struggle to just be right and to have the last word, which is what you are doing. So, go ahead and have the last word if you really are that immature. Isn't it strange though that no one else brought this debate back up? Or when CityOrian almost brought it back the community purposely kept it on topic?
You won't admit you are wrong, I won't admit I am wrong. It's over, neither of us are right, deal with it.

religious people are so funny. they try and act righteous, but are the quickest ones to turn intolerant.

We both know you are just trying to start this up again.

Everybody,
SHUT THE HELL UP AND DON'T START THIS UP AGAIN
You are all just insulting the each other just because of the topic "Religion"
They just believe in something, Does that mean you can say "OMG UR RELIGUN SUCKS GAWD DUN NOT EXSIST BUT MY AWESUM researchO DOESSSS" Shamefully?
Just shut up, And get somebody to lock this.

...And get somebody to lock this.
Ya that's probably the only solution now. My apologies for this mess.

Burn the furries. /thread.

THIS DEBATE IS NOT ABOUT RELIGION, APHTONITES. IF YOU COULD ACTUALLY COMPREHEND WHAT I WROTE YOU'D KNOW THAT I AM TRYING TO EXPLAIN THAT IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO RESPECT WHAT EVERYONE BELIEVES UNLESS YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN ANYTHING AT ALL YOURSELF, AND THAT THE "FLAMING" WAS A SIMPLE (AND OBVIOUS, GIVEN THE CONTEXT) RHETORICAL DEVICE TO PROVE MY POINT.

I don't even know what started this, but seriously. Get over it. The more you hold the grudge, the deeper the scar will be made. Stop acting like 7 year olds and stop fighting.
And I really don't want to debate this because you will only see what you want to see from my posts, and I won't admit I am wrong because I don't see it that way.  And it will just continue until someone decides they have something better to do.
I was trying to end it.
No you weren't. You've continued the argument as much as I have.

The ability for me to drop the argument and try to get it back on topic shows that I DO respect what other people believe, and I never said "my belief is better than anyone else's" I just wanted people to realize that saying what I believe is wrong is offensive.
By saying that I believe differently I am saying that you are wrong. If that's offensive to you (which is what you say) then I am being disrespectful only by bringing it up.

Okay this is getting annoying.

You can believe my views are full of sh** but if you don't FLAME me and you instead structure your argument into something intelligent, that is respect. You are RESPECTFULLY DISAGREEING with what I have to say.
Alright, we need to make this clear: a belief is something you hold for truth. You don't agree or disagree with truth. If I contradict something you believe in by believing differently, I am obviously not respecting your belief. If I respected your belief (respecting, as per definition, meaning that I regard it highly or give it any credit) I wouldn't hold a different belief for truth. The most you can ask from someone is to accept other beliefs (which incidentally is impossible if you follow the holy scriptures of any of the semitic religions), but respect? Nah. Would you respect my beliefs if I said that I believe that you are a stupid mongoloid (and again, I don't. This is a rhetorical question)?

You think you are right and nothing will convince you otherwise, that is why I don't want to debate this. Everybody else knew it wasn't smart to get involved, not because I was right, not because I was wrong, but because it is foolish to debate with people who will never believe anything else. Debates like this will just lead to more and more posts with less intelligent thought and more struggle to just be right and to have the last word, which is what you are doing. So, go ahead and have the last word if you really are that immature. Isn't it strange though that no one else brought this debate back up? Or when CityOrian almost brought it back the community purposely kept it on topic?
You won't admit you are wrong, I won't admit I am wrong. It's over, neither of us are right, deal with it.
What, so you prefer flaming and making fun of tails to debating beliefs? Because that's what the topic is actually about. If there is a thread to derail it's this inflammatory piece of stuff. The original topic is so pathetic that the only meaningful discussion the thread has been able to maintain is the one we're having regarding beliefs. I'm willing to argue that the only posts in a while that have been able to provoke intelligent thought at all are these and the ones when you were arguing with Iban.
« Last Edit: June 18, 2008, 05:42:36 PM by Linde »

I think tails may of just lost a forgetload of respect, except for me cause i'm a friend bitch


I know, hey?

I think tails may of just lost a forgetload of respect, except for me cause i'm a friend bitch


I know, hey?


FAIL

I think tails may of just lost a forgetload of respect, except for me cause i'm a friend bitch


I know, hey?


FAIL
tails will not lose any repsect because of what he likes.
Tell me, who is 'normal'?
Yeah so what if he likes furry stuff?
I really don't care about what he does in his spare time, and if anyone does they got real control issues, or they are so conceited that they think only their opinion matters.
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And yes, Iamanevil is a failure.