THIS DEBATE IS NOT ABOUT RELIGION, APHTONITES. IF YOU COULD ACTUALLY COMPREHEND WHAT I WROTE YOU'D KNOW THAT I AM TRYING TO EXPLAIN THAT IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO RESPECT WHAT EVERYONE BELIEVES UNLESS YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN ANYTHING AT ALL YOURSELF, AND THAT THE "FLAMING" WAS A SIMPLE (AND OBVIOUS, GIVEN THE CONTEXT) RHETORICAL DEVICE TO PROVE MY POINT.I don't even know what started this, but seriously. Get over it. The more you hold the grudge, the deeper the scar will be made. Stop acting like 7 year olds and stop fighting.
And I really don't want to debate this because you will only see what you want to see from my posts, and I won't admit I am wrong because I don't see it that way. And it will just continue until someone decides they have something better to do.
I was trying to end it.
No you weren't. You've continued the argument as much as I have.
The ability for me to drop the argument and try to get it back on topic shows that I DO respect what other people believe, and I never said "my belief is better than anyone else's" I just wanted people to realize that saying what I believe is wrong is offensive.
By saying that I believe differently I
am saying that you are wrong. If that's offensive to you (which is what you say) then I am being disrespectful only by bringing it up.
Okay this is getting annoying.
You can believe my views are full of sh** but if you don't FLAME me and you instead structure your argument into something intelligent, that is respect. You are RESPECTFULLY DISAGREEING with what I have to say.
Alright, we need to make this clear: a belief is something you hold for
truth. You don't agree or disagree with truth. If I contradict something you believe in by believing differently, I am obviously not respecting your belief. If I respected your belief (respecting, as per definition, meaning that I regard it highly or give it any credit) I wouldn't hold a different belief for truth. The most you can ask from someone is to
accept other beliefs (which incidentally is impossible if you follow the holy scriptures of any of the semitic religions), but respect? Nah. Would you respect my beliefs if I said that I believe that you are a stupid mongoloid (and again, I don't. This is a rhetorical question)?
You think you are right and nothing will convince you otherwise, that is why I don't want to debate this. Everybody else knew it wasn't smart to get involved, not because I was right, not because I was wrong, but because it is foolish to debate with people who will never believe anything else. Debates like this will just lead to more and more posts with less intelligent thought and more struggle to just be right and to have the last word, which is what you are doing. So, go ahead and have the last word if you really are that immature. Isn't it strange though that no one else brought this debate back up? Or when CityOrian almost brought it back the community purposely kept it on topic?
You won't admit you are wrong, I won't admit I am wrong. It's over, neither of us are right, deal with it.
What, so you prefer flaming and making fun of tails to debating beliefs? Because that's what the topic is actually about. If there is a thread to derail it's this inflammatory piece of stuff. The original topic is so pathetic that the only meaningful discussion the thread has been able to maintain is the one we're having regarding beliefs. I'm willing to argue that the only posts in a while that have been able to provoke intelligent thought at all are these and the ones when you were arguing with Iban.