Regardless of your views on religion, is anyone on my side here? This has gone far beyond rational debate.
I have been trying to avoid these debates because most of the people on this forum are too immature or stubborn (like Iban and CityOrian) to handle it, but I am definately on your side. Unfortunately, almost all of these discussions often derail from rational debate and lead to flame wars. I'm glad I'm not the only one standing up though.
IbanZ is being a handicap. If he went to school/work and shared his ideas about Christians, he would be shunned from socity.
That's probably why he uses this topic / the entire forum as his soap box. I thought he had changed after his last ban, but I think a perminent one is in order; and I'm not the only one who feels that way apparently. Not because he challenges religion in a logical manner, but because he can't seem to find truth in anything other than in his own beliefs, he can't post without cursing uncontrollably, and he constantly insults other people in a mature discussion.
I have no problem against religious people, but I dislike that when i say Im not religious, I always have yo hear your crap about it. You can insult atheists, but people cant insult you for believing in whatever religion you are.
I only bring it up when someone insults religion or just brings it up in a negative manner. People who speak negatively about religion influence other people. And those who are religious have no right to put down other beliefs. However, people make fun of religion - especially Christianity - a lot more than people realize, and we should atleast try maintain respect before it gets out of hand.
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On topic: Even though war, to me, is just young people dieing because old people can't settle their differences, I support our troops. This woman is giving religious people a bad name.
