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Luquado:
--- Quote from: mocheeze on April 12, 2006, 03:45:13 AM ---Hey, I just gave my own opinion
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Me too. I said what I liked, but apparently your team member felt that was out of line. I don't care about what's happened since I left TBM, or what script(s) gobbles or anyone may have used on RTB servers - I just like to play and build and blah blah blah, and I was stating my mod of choice, besides of course Vanilla which is where I spend most of my time these days anyway.
Going back through the thread it seems to me - and maybe I'm mental here - that things were going along peachy until astro trolled me & by proxy TBM. Not slagging off on you, mo, but that's what happened. I'd made a point that gobbles is a great mapper, people were talking about modelling, then boom the thread took a turn for stuff.
If you think TBM's unsafe, fine. If you want to tell people to not play it - more power to you. We blew it, TBM got banned, people got banned. mod rules were put in place, yadda yadda. But don't come after me for offering my opinion - that I like TBM out of the mods, and that gobbles is a good mapper - and not expect me to respond in kind... which will probably lead to another thread stufffest. I'm going to keep offering my opinion, and I think it's among the fairest around these parts, and if you guys want to troll me for it so be it
--- Quote ---I'm not a leader, and I probably do the least amount of work as anyone.
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Except for Lazy Pete, that lazy-ass bastard. Curse you, Lazy Pete, curse you!!
--- Quote ---Anyway, Unknown, I would recommend trying out the other mods listed in the Mods forum. There is some fun stuff out there that many people have forgotten about.
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Or, mod your own. That's a lot of fun as you get decent at it.
PhatStreet:
--- Quote from: mocheeze on April 12, 2006, 03:45:13 AM ---Hey, I just gave my own opinion, and talked of my own experience with Gobbles. I said other people may have more fun than I did interacting with him. What's wrong that that? Everyone has their own opinions. Some say everyone should try TBM and Amod, while others think they suck. If you want to talk about immature, how about you stop posting that lame little emoticon in every post you make? If you want to talk about maturity, how about the creation of a script with the express intent to crash another person's server, and all the other servers using RTB just because you don't like one of the people that helps make the mod, even if that person doesn't give a damn about your mod.
The best thing about these mod wars is how hilarious it is to see people like PhatStreet hide behind his emoticons, pretending like he's making some huge statement... thinking that everyone will laugh along with him if he tries hard enough. Here's a news flash dude: People don't give a rat's ass what I think anymore than they care what any other user thinks. Why is it that you're always attacking me personally? Is it going to let TBM come back? Have you guys just gotten tired of attacking Badspot?
Maybe you realised that Badspot won't ban you just for attacking regular BL users like me, so you do that all you can? It's not going to help you make your case. There's pretty much nothing you can say that's going to get people to believe you over the big capital letters on the front of Blockland.us detailing the exploit and telling people to not use TBM. TBM and its users have lost credibility, sorry man.
FYI, I really don't care what you say about me, if attacking a person is the only way you can try and make people read your posts, then more power to you. The only thing I care a stitch about is the safety and security of the people that use Blockland. I wish I could say the same thing about MCP and Gobbles at TBM, but considering they tried to write exploits for their own mod, then they felt it was important to crash RTB servers with spam, I'm not inclined to befriend them any time soon, or lend them any credibility.
It's easy to live in separate worlds as TBM and its users, without any tension. However, it gets hard to do when people are posting links to files on their webspace, and telling people to switch to TBM and it's child-mods. Do you expect the people that were here for the exploit to just lie down and let you try and switch people to software that obviously doesn't have ethical leadership, and a proven track record of hacker mentality? Not likely dude. It also doesn't make it any easier when your users start RTB servers who's sole purpose is to switch users to TBM, and directly personally attack me. I'm sure people are really going to listen to your mod pitch when half your arguments are that I'm lazy (doesn't everyone know that already?).
RTB isn't my mod anymore than Blockland is my game. RTB belongs to the users that play it. Without them there would be no RTB, and no me sticking around to make sure they are enjoying it the best I can. I'm just one of many developers to work on RTB. I'm not a leader, and I probably do the least amount of work as anyone.
Anyway, Unknown, I would recommend trying out the other mods listed in the Mods forum. There is some fun stuff out there that many people have forgotten about. If that doesn't satisfy you, maybe Ephi's/SS's RPG server on RTB would be an interesting alternative to building. Not my personal cup of tea, but it might be yours!
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I'll stop "hiding behind emoticons" if you stop slandering a mod you never played. About the attacking servers, 90% of servers attacked have been from other RtBers that have "clan enemies" and the like. Nobody from TBM does that anymore. I'm not here to convert people to TBM, I'm here to get people to change the opinion people like you have created about the mod, which is why entrepreneur in's post made me happy. He's apparently one of the few open minded people on this forum.
--- Quote --- The only thing I care a stitch about is the safety and security of the people that use Blockland. I wish I could say the same thing about MCP and Gobbles at TBM, but considering they tried to write exploits for their own mod, then they felt it was important to crash RTB servers with spam, I'm not inclined to befriend them any time soon, or lend them any credibility.
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Gobbles wasn't involved with the protection scripts. The thing is, Luquado was one of the most supportive of us trying to come up with a way of not having our stuff ripped off. Perhaps in hindsight, making something that could be exploited was a problem, but the thing is, why would we want to crash our own user's Blocklands and cause havok to their Blockland folder? There is no reason. You need to stop saying you care about people's security, because it really isn't possible to have a "security risk" in Blockland. The extent of a possible exploit is deleting and creating the script files in the game folders. BJway Bandit, one of the first people attacking us over the "exploit" has since apologized. Labrat, one of the ones to figure out the technical details of it, started to lean a bit towards our side near the end. He didn't agree with what we did, but he realized why we did it. Hindsight is always 20/20. Looking back, if it hadn't been "aoi", perhaps somebody could have exploited it and filled up hard drive space or deleted the server scripts. But -WE- don't have a reason to waste our time doing that to them. It kinda reminds me of
--- Quote ---commandtoserver('getwand');
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Perhaps it was in there for a good reason. But once people found out, it was exploited a ton, and was thus removed. But the point is that it's removed. We don't have the time to waste ruining our own players' Blocklands. Rob, the main guy behind the exploit is gone. MCP may have had a hand behind it, but he's not going to make the same mistake again. Gobbles, while he acted stupid before with the spamming, hasn't crashed servers and he hasn't done anything "malicious" in a very long time. We never had a "hacker mentality", we just wanted our work to not be bastardized. So give us a break, we're not here to screw things up. We just want people giving the mod we work hard on an equal chance.
I remember a few months ago in the RtB webchat that you said you wanted mod peace. Work towards it, instead of creating more tension between us.
Silas:
woo, the F-16 was in my server.
The Unknown:
Looks more like a Harrier :|
Pimpin:
I'm wondering: Have you played RtB PhatStreet?