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Molasses:

--- Quote ---Just like religious people are like 'OMG IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD, JESUS IS COMING, LIFE IS GREAT!" ?
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I've never said that, nor never will.
Jsk2003:
And I've never said "OMG ASTEROIDS, OMG GLOBAL WARMING, OMG ICE AGE."
So therefore neither of our statements work out.
I just made you invalidate your own point. :D
Digmaster:

--- Quote from: Dr Bling on May 20, 2009, 10:36:40 PM ---How could this world be created without a God?

How could anyone create a world?

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By gravitational forces pulling together hunks of rock until we have our world

(See the first answer)
Muffinmix:

--- Quote from: Jsk2003 on May 20, 2009, 10:37:18 PM ---Yes, I think of all religions like that, as just a book of morals and stories to help you point your life in a good path.

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Religion has the potential to do allot of good, but it also has the potential to do allot of bad. The core principle of religion has and always will be self preservation, that is the goal or religion. You see this in all teachings in some way or form. People support religion, if there aren't enough people then a religion can die out. But keep in mind religion doesn't have a mind of it's own, people make the decisions to keep religion going, and sometimes they'll try to preserve it at any cost.

Naturally this preservation can lead to extreme maneuvers such as "putting the fear of god" into people, as well as allot of disinformation, anything in order to ascertain absolute unconditional faith in the religion with threats to excommunicate whoever isn't completely faithful in some cases. However there are many instances within that same religion where a huge amount of good comes out of the very same teachings, and there is limited to no disinformation. So religion itself isn't at fault but instead it might be some of the people in it... Again saying all religion and people who believe in it suck is generalization, which is synonymous to racism and loveism.

Funny story though. In these technological times it's difficult for many religious sectors simply because science is pushing allot of what the classical religious beliefs were, so there is heavy competition between science and religion for beliefs. The funny thing is allot of religious scientists are using techniques like carbon dating for instance to help pinpoint religious dates and historical events. How do you think some people feel about their fellow religious friends working to turn over those forbidden rocks to find out more about their religion? These people ironically also help expand on the very technology that is slowly proving allot of classical religious beliefs to be false.

Of course, religion could potentially adapt as it has in the past, and it will again be forced to do so. It's already changing rather quickly, becoming much more communal and relaxing it's boundaries. It will need to do this and more in order to be preserved.
Jsk2003:

--- Quote from: Dr Bling on May 20, 2009, 10:36:40 PM ---How could this world be created without a God?

How could anyone create a world?

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So first you basically state that this world had to have been created by a god.

Then you say that no one could create a world.

CONTRADICTION MUCH?
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