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What the Hell, Man?
VerticalHorizon:
--- Quote from: Swholli on August 24, 2009, 10:20:47 PM ---True. But:
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You do realize that if everyone was like that then the world would be a terrible place, right? The people with the worst ideas can usually express them much better. Take for instance, if our country's leaders were to have been like "Hey, lets actually listen to Riddler." instead of just saying "forget you our ideals are much better *boom*" then there's a chance we might have ended up just as bad as national socialist Germany.
Opinions separate smart people from the stupid people. If everyone were to change their opinion just because the other person sounded right, we as a society would completely fall apart. I would keep elaborating but I think I'm going to save some of this muse for a new post.
Antallion:
--- Quote from: VerticalHorizon on August 25, 2009, 12:57:45 AM ---You do realize that if everyone was like that then the world would be a terrible place, right? The people with the worst ideas can usually express them much better. Take for instance, if our country's leaders were to have been like "Hey, lets actually listen to Riddler." instead of just saying "forget you our ideals are much better *boom*" then there's a chance we might have ended up just as bad as national socialist Germany.
Opinions separate smart people from the stupid people. If everyone were to change their opinion just because the other person sounded right, we as a society would completely fall apart. I would keep elaborating but I think I'm going to save some of this muse for a new post.
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Swhiholi isn't saying
'hear someones opinions and instantly change yours to them without consideration'
I'm sure America did actually hear some of Riddlers 'intentions', and disagreed (excpet the argument was a bit bigger scale this time)
willhideho:
Rant about some more serious stuff then lego guitar hero and sunglasses.
VerticalHorizon:
--- Quote from: Antallion on August 25, 2009, 01:57:09 AM ---Swhiholi isn't saying
'hear someones opinions and instantly change yours to them without consideration'
I'm sure America did actually hear some of Riddlers 'intentions', and disagreed (excpet the argument was a bit bigger scale this time)
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I agree that the Riddler point can't be considered in whole, since Riddler's intentions were obviously immoral.
But:
--- Quote from: Swholli on August 24, 2009, 08:25:12 PM ---And when someone wins, maybe change your opinion.
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You have to think about that on a deeper level. What if there were completely sane and "winning" arguments against slavery that were ignored? Arguments against being an independent nation, arguments for socialism and the like that were ignored?
Like I said before, opinions can separate the idiots from the level headed people, if we allowed our opinions to be changed just because another opinion sounded nice then we would be pretty miserable.
--- Quote from: willhideho on August 25, 2009, 02:02:56 AM ---Rant about some more serious stuff then lego guitar hero and sunglasses.
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Post in a topic about more serious stuff, rather than a post about a blog.
Swholli:
I didn't say because it sounded nice, I said because it sounded logical and the best thing to do. That didn't mean people had to change their ideals for another, no. But if more people used their heads and listened to other people rather than getting into the one-sided "I'm right, you're wrong" mindset, then we would live in a much much better place.
Think about it like this:
"Hey, I hate you because your religion is not my religion, I shall now start a war with you"
"But sir, we are a peaceful nation, and our religion isn't all that different from yours, we may believe in a different god, but isn't it all really about what that god teaches us?"
"Oh. I suppose you're right. I don't agree with your religion per say, but I understand your views for supporting it, I will now leave you at peace."
If the world worked like that and people weren't closed minded, then it would be a much better place.
Also, did you just say socialism was a good thing?