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Kids and politics
Grumpy:
--- Quote from: DrMobius on October 04, 2009, 07:18:38 PM ---So what are you? Republican or Democrat?
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Independant
Wedge:
--- Quote from: Rekuddo on October 05, 2009, 05:23:41 PM ---Cybersecurity act of 2009
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s111-773
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Oh haha thanks. Now that I think about it I looked through my RSS feeds and found out that gamepolotics did a short blurb about it but I have to admit I don't read it nearly as closely as I do my other feeds (for example, ars technica, which I'm surprised didn't do an article on it).
Anyway since none of my congressmen are on the committee and there isn't a final version out, I subscribed to it by RSS and will probably send in something/post a thread here asking other people to write letters when it gets to the floor, if it's not been revised.
Rughugger:
--- Quote from: Inv3rted on October 05, 2009, 03:04:11 PM ---Where is the government slyly taking away our control? The election system was in place since the creation of the nation, and our rights have only increased. Suffrage was extended to everyone, and slaves became full citizens. The only problem I have with government control is media censorship. As long as we can change the channel, we have the right to say forget and watch people forget on TV.
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The government have been slowly reducing our rights pretty much since radio and television came out. Primarily the first amendment. And whether or not you choose to believe it, I could care less either way, but the government controls content released by news media. FCC is a government run program. Our right to bear arms is constantly under question. Unlawful search and seizures can easily be bypassed with loopholes and red tape. (entrapment) The right to a fair trial has all but been abolished no thanks to stupid cases where a woman can sue a restaurant for being clumsy and spilling her hot drink on her own lap when common sense dictates that the cup came with a lid and steam was clearly visible indicating a hot beverage. I could go on and on and on. But our basic amendment rights are all pretty much out the door these days and no one seems to be seeing it happening right in front of us.
Healbadbad:
pixl, unless you have the ability to learn calculus in 9th grade while doing all the other AP stuff that is going on, it becomes extremely hard to get above a C
I am completely with rughugger
--- Quote from: Inv3rted on October 05, 2009, 01:37:16 AM ---This is the poorest argument ever. The government has no money except ours, because the government is the representation of the people in an administrative body. Redistribution of wealth from richer people to less never hurt the economy.
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yes, the constitution was meant to set up a government be representative by the people, but the only direct connection between the 2 is the the lower house of congress.communist
--- Quote from: Inv3rted on October 05, 2009, 02:17:38 AM ---The poor aren't receiving enough money. Republicans have been in power for too long.
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it doesn't really matter which party has been in power, and i would assume it would be extremely difficult to make a tax that would only target the rich, seeing as most* richer people worked hard for their money, and would argue that the people who didn't give a stuff about their future till now deserve to be equally taxed
communist
*i know quite a few people just use inheritance
--- Quote from: Inv3rted on October 05, 2009, 02:56:57 PM ---You are quite the wacko. Stuff is getting worse because the democratic majority has a lot of infighting and conservative members, who should be republicans. Also, Obama wants all changes to be bipartisan, slowing down the process. He believes that unity is important for the future of the nation. You are really starting to sound like one of those conspiracy theorists, who say 9/11 was planned by the government and the moon landing was a hoax.
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BAHUMBUG. the only way to decrease overall power of the government is to separate it from the inside and keep it away from a majority party. you say obama wants the nation to become more unitary, to me that's like saying to everyone that he wants a stronger central government, which means less power for people
--- Quote from: Inv3rted on October 05, 2009, 03:04:11 PM ---Where is the government slyly taking away our control? The election system was in place since the creation of the nation, and our rights have only increased. Suffrage was extended to everyone, and slaves became full citizens. The only problem I have with government control is media censorship. As long as we can change the channel, we have the right to say forget and watch people forget on TV.
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plenty of Supreme court cases i've read give a stuffLOAD of power to the government, and that power Can affect us directly, mainly through the states. For example South dakota vs Dole i think it is, south dakota was issued a grant with a crossover sanction saying that their drinking age be raised to 21 or they would pull 5% of the funds. The supreme court said it was constitutional and voila, no more drinking under 21. That's only one example that directly affects us, but i can find more. there's pleny of stuff that suggests outright that the government has become much more powerfull that it was intended
communist
pixl:
--- Quote from: Healbadbad on October 05, 2009, 07:21:18 PM ---pixl, unless you have the ability to learn calculus in 9th grade while doing all the other AP stuff that is going on, it becomes extremely hard to get above a C
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also to add, the only reason my dad lives in such a conservative city(he is a major atheist democrat) Is because it has the best education system in idaho. Even though everyone is a homophobic mormon obama hating republican. I remember the 04 election how every one except me in 5 grade wanted bush to be elected. God it makes me lol how ignorant and stupid they are when they call him a handicap like a year after the election. Nearly Everyone around me is brainless.
I liked obama ever since i saw him on the jay leno show, before the presidential debate started