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| Inv3rted:
Thorax, you can't claim those people do not exist. Just look at any creationist. |
| Thorax:
--- Quote from: Inv3rted on October 08, 2009, 05:30:53 PM ---Thorax, you can't claim those people do not exist. Just look at any creationist. --- End quote --- What people? |
| Rughugger:
--- Quote from: Inv3rted on October 08, 2009, 03:09:39 PM ---If I read this correctly, you are saying that I shouldn't even give a second thought about religion. I wonder where the problem with that lies? And if you're so insecure about a fifteen year old spoiled brat who was raped by a pastor questioning your beliefs, I think you should get your 28 year old ass out of here. --- End quote --- Thanks for completely dodging my question. I guess you are butthurt over something and need to take it out on someone. So much for having an open mind about that. Secondly I'm secure enough in my faith to not let any atheist, let alone a 15 year old kid put doubt into my beliefs. I was atheist for a while and it didn't improve my life at all, it only helped send me further into depression. Since I reaffirmed my faith, I have been able to solve a lot of my problems, find a direction in my life, and I've been happier than I can ever remember being. Sometimes a little faith in something, real or not, can be all that it takes to do good in someone's life. So no, you have no effect on me, my faith, or even my opinion of you, which varies now and then, but is never an extreme like or hatred of. What I don't get is what caused you to get this way about religion and why that has to send you on your own personal crusade to insult every person who just happens to be happy with having a faith. To Bisjac, I have a strong belief in both religion and science and that I happen to think that science is the path to understanding how God works and maybe even some day when we advance enough, we can meet him or whatever so called alien race that he may or may not be a part of. Maybe that's why he just up and stopped interacting with us because his direct involvement was causing humanity more harm than it was doing good. Maybe some time in our distant future, humanity can evolve to the point where we are on par with things of that nature. Point is, we don't know, we may never know. But isn't having some kind of rewarding goal not the drive of any person religious or not? I'd like to think so. |
| Snackbar:
--- Quote from: Bisjac on October 08, 2009, 04:48:01 PM ----the world is flat --- End quote --- No one has ever really believed the world is flat. At least, medieval Christians never did. The only people who did were Ancient Babylonians and the pre-Manchu (and early Ming, as well) Dynasty China. --- Quote from: Inv3rted on October 08, 2009, 04:29:53 PM ---I can't say anything is true or untrue in its entirety (except for mathematical proofs), but I can deal with probabilities. The way I see things, there is an overwhelming (and I mean really overwhelming) probability that there is no God, and therefore I would find it irrational to believe there is. I cannot deny the universe is less than a second old, but that is highly improbable. --- End quote --- Since when has a lack of proof for or against been overwhelming support? If you actually have some evidence to back up your claim of "overwhelming probabilities", I'd love to hear them. |
| Rughugger:
--- Quote from: Snackbar on October 08, 2009, 05:59:43 PM ---Since when has a lack of proof for or against been overwhelming support? If you actually have some evidence to back up your claim of "overwhelming probabilities", I'd love to hear them. --- End quote --- Well the thing I find so amusing about his arguments is that he refers to God and his actions as if they are real yet he doesn't believe in any of it, so wouldn't that kind of fill his arguments with a load of fictitious points completely nullifying his argument completely? I don't know about that. It would be like me arguing that Megatron were real and has killed a lot of people just because it said so in a book that I believe to be fiction. |
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