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Rughugger:

--- Quote from: Inv3rted on October 09, 2009, 11:14:55 AM ---He knows the majority of the Old Testament is fact. No need to learn more than that.

And Rughugger, that sounds to me like a preacher telling everyone to stroke their richards with narcissistic passion. Good thing you didn't turn out as an arrogant and egotistical adult at all.

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Well until you actually watch one of his video clips, I don't expect you to understand. And religion has nothing to do with me being egotistical or arrogant. That comes from experience in life. I was a lot worse before I started listening to Joel. You don't like me now, you would have hated me as an atheist. Or I would have made you proud, I dunno, you're kinda messed up that way. :)
Inv3rted:

--- Quote from: Healbadbad on October 09, 2009, 11:16:44 AM ---so, are you saying that there can never be a compromise between science and religion?

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Yes. Religion is a bronze age method of figuring out the unknown. Science is a principle based on logic and observations that has developed over the centuries. Both seek to explain the same things.


--- Quote from: Healbadbad on October 09, 2009, 11:16:44 AM ---humans have done really great things and are still come up with better, which you can help with?

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Another problem with JudeoChristian philosophy is that it makes people believe they are significant. You are not. You are simply the end result of many cases of mutation and selection.


--- Quote from: Healbadbad on October 09, 2009, 11:16:44 AM ---made my day :D

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If I am correct, the Holy Trinity is both one and three things. God says repeatedly in the Old Testament that nonbelievers should be punished, showing how little love he has of his creations. If Jesus loves me and God doesn't, does that mean God changed his mind? If God changes his mind, he is not omniscient.


--- Quote from: Rughugger on October 09, 2009, 11:23:43 AM ---Well until you actually watch one of his video clips, I don't expect you to understand. And religion has nothing to do with me being egotistical or arrogant. That comes from experience in life. I was a lot worse before I started listening to Joel. You don't like me now, you would have hated me as an atheist. Or I would have made you proud, I dunno, you're kinda messed up that way. :)

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My problem with your ego is not the fact that it exists. My problem is that it is based around your age, and how it makes you feel superior. 
Healbadbad:

--- Quote from: Inv3rted on October 09, 2009, 11:24:26 AM ---Another problem with JudeoChristian philosophy is that it makes people believe they are significant. You are not. You are simply the end result of many cases of mutation and selection.

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so was newton
Inv3rted:
Newton was also a great user of the scientific method. On a cosmic scale, he is still insignificant.
Rughugger:

--- Quote from: Inv3rted on October 09, 2009, 11:24:26 AM ---My problem with your ego is not the fact that it exists. My problem is that it is based around your age, and how it makes you feel superior. 

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I don't feel superior, I am. It's not arrogance, it's not being a richard. Experience and fact simply state that. Your parents are better than you, there are many people better than you. Just as there are many people who are much better than me. Badspot for example, is better than me. I can concede to that. Bisjac is better than me in some ways. I accept that. You, however, have shown me to be rather childish, offensive, and insecure. But you also make a lot of good arguments, which I have stated on other threads, so at this point in the argument, I can't admit you as better simply because you haven't changed my choice of belief. If that ever happens, then I concede your supremacy. But I really doubt that will happen.  As soon as you have been out on your own and gain some valuable life experience that I have had the time to obtain, I can't consider you superior. It will happen for you soon enough and then you'll have a better understanding of this so called arrogance and superiority you claim I exhibit. As I said, it's not a personal thing, it's fact. Just deal with the fact that you're not almighty yourself and try to peg people down to your level with any more petty insults.
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