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| SUPERMAN345:
Agreed. Insulting me and attempting to prove me wrong due to my beliefs will not make me want to be atheist. Infact, it makes my heart bleed for atheists, because they have idiots that actually attempt to do this over the INTERNET. |
| prnceoprsia:
Here is the way I look at it. When I die I will go to heaven, And if there isn't a God, I will just rot in the ground. If you are right, You rot in the ground, if you are wrong you rot in hell. Either way my outcome looks better sorry bud. |
| Inv3rted:
--- Quote from: prnceoprsia on October 09, 2009, 09:31:42 PM ---Here is the way I look at it. When I die I will go to heaven, And if there isn't a God, I will just rot in the ground. If you are right, You rot in the ground, if you are wrong you rot in hell. Either way my outcome looks better sorry bud. --- End quote --- PASCAL'S WAGER LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. Which God do you believe in? Only one can be the true one. What if your God is wrong and Zeus really exists? Also, I think a God would notice that you're believing only as a safety measure. Finally, belief isn't something you can just do. Once you disbelieve something, you can't truthfully believe in it again (easily). EDIT: I was reading through the thread, and I noticed that Rughugger said that "everything that I have prayed for in the past year has come true." Let me explain to you why this is. It does not require the existence of God, either. When you pray for something, there are three things that could happen: 1. you get what you pray for shortly 2. you wait a while and then get it 3. you never get it Number one is the rarest case, because it requires quite a lot of coincidences (unless your prayer is something like "I want to do well on my test tomorrow" when you've studied). Number two is more common. You wait a long time, and then something fortunate happens. During this you remember the prayer you made a month ago, and attribute this good fortune to the prayer. God must have had a good reason to keep me waiting for this. Number three is also common. Your prayer simply does not happen. Again, you say this is because God believes you do not need this. But really it's because prayer does absolutely nothing besides a possible placebo effect. Saying every single prayer you made came true last year was either: a gross exaggeration, a terrible lapse of memory, or a downright lie. |
| Swholli:
Yeah, prayer is one thing I have to agree with you on. I mean, thinking that one being can answer everyone's prayers simultaneously, is like believing in Santa Claus bringing gifts. Even if there were a God, I don't think he'd be morally able to answer every prayer, I mean, what if a good Christan football player asked for his team to win, while the opposing team had a good Christian player who asked for the same thing. Who does he let win? See, too many complications. |
| Inv3rted:
We're both in agreement about most things. The God(s) described by any religion is/are so highly improbable it isn't worth fussing about. I can't deny it, of course, because I can't deny that the universe is a millisecond old. Being fully agnostic in this regard towards religion is foolish, as it makes the assumption that both sides have the same weight. A creator / designer, the deist idea, is also improbable. But less so than the original religious gods. He is improbable because something this complex would have insane odds of appearing by chance. And if it didn't appear by chance, that means that there was something before it, thus making it not the creator of everything. |
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