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oromis:
my god...this reminds me of a time in class today when I was explaining to my friend how you can't disrespect somebody's religion or traditions because they are different from your own. (we were debating on whether or not they should mess up Egyptian tombs for bodies and stuff)... yesh, so.

NOTAHNKS, LOCK
Swholli:
You simply have to look at things in a logical point of view. Science will never explain anything. Religion neither. Science can only go so far as to tell us why the physical world works the way it does now, not how it did back then. And even more so, it really just makes you wonder why the hell anything exists, and that in turn brings up questions like these.

The superficial will boast that some mighty power created all, and he is divine, obey his will (their own set of laws) or else burn for eternity. The scientific will explain that the world was created through something we can observe, and then the logical will stare endlessly into space pondering all the what if's in life.

Really, this is all just like Tic-Tac-Toe: the only winning move is not to play.
Inv3rted:

--- Quote from: Godik7 on October 09, 2009, 07:48:14 PM ---Are you loving kidding me?
Another one?!

Soon Off Topic will be a giant war zone and everyone will hate everyone.

Oh well fuel the flame >:D

I'm kinda on both ways here, my thoughts on this are,

There is a God:

Ever wonder how we managed to land in space perfectly to where we can live on planet earth?

Ever realized how we're born perfectly with lungs,heart,brain, eyes etc. And were not some organism that is missing something to not survive on earth?

How is it that we can think and speak languages have our own cultures and opinions and were not some mindless idiots like mice or fish.

There isn't:

How could there be a huge mystical guy that can create such things as the universe and planets.

How could "God" have powers and we don't

What if some crazy guy made up a rumor saying there is a "God" and told a gullible person(s) then it eventually landed to a religion.
I have more points for each but I don't think my opinions would matter here.



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Please, I have moved on from arguing with petty creationists to full on moderate Christians. Don't bring me back.

I'll give you one word of advice: read a book that doesn't contain the word Jesus.
Rughugger:
Well if you look far back enough in Mormon history, there is an explanation, albeit a really messed up one. Granted, this is a view I do not believe in because, c'mon. really? lol

Original Mormons believed that if one lived a truly pure life, we're talking not even a single sin to repent here, that they would be granted godhood and control over their own planet in which to create their own life. So in effect, their own former god made them gods and they go on and make more god candidates and the cycle repeats endlessly. But since technically the amount of Mormons to make that list were so few and sparse, even less than the amount of Judas Priests think heaven allows, there is plenty of room for everyone to make their own messed up coven of mutants. But that was after going back in research for this stuff which is obviously not taught in today's Mormon circles.

They also thought Polygamy was hawt :D
Inv3rted:

--- Quote from: Swholli on October 09, 2009, 07:58:39 PM ---You simply have to look at things in a logical point of view. Science will never explain anything. Religion neither. Science can only go so far as to tell us why the physical world works the way it does now, not how it did back then. And even more so, it really just makes you wonder why the hell anything exists, and that in turn brings up questions like these.

The superficial will boast that some mighty power created all, and he is divine, obey his will (their own set of laws) or else burn for eternity. The scientific will explain that the world was created through something we can observe, and then the logical will stare endlessly into space pondering all the what if's in life.

Really, this is all just like Tic-Tac-Toe: the only winning move is not to play.

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It appears you are taking the position of full agnosticism, where either option has an equal probability of being correct. This is simply not so. The odds are way against the existence of God, but of course there is that tiny, tiny chance.
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