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Semen and eggs being made from stem cells?
Deep2:
Inv3rted is 15.
Rughugger:
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Point being? It was a cliched reference not a Chris Hanson revelation clip.
Inv3rted:
--- Quote from: Deep2 on October 29, 2009, 07:42:15 PM ---Inv3rted is 15.
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Thanks, captain.
--- Quote from: Rughugger on October 29, 2009, 07:16:02 PM ---Not in my mind. Showing us how we were made could be all the evidence needed to prove there is a god. Whether or not this will cause a massive falling out of religion is really up to the individual. Will they see this as proof positive that life was created by a being with technology we can only see as omni-everything described in the Bible? There is a lot that has happened in the world since that book was written that if someone was brought from that time to ours, they would consider us gods or messengers from a god for all our accomplishments that would seem like nothing but magic and godly powers.
My point is that humanity arose from very basic single cellular life through natural selection without the need of a god. We don't know how the first living organism appeared, but we know how it turned into everything that is currently alive. We are so advanced and yet we didn't need a direct creator.
The Bible can not be held as a basis for solid religious fact and I admit that. However, I've never seen the Bible as complete 100% fact as it was written by man as his interpretation on what they at the time thought God wanted us to do. And Man as a whole is flawed so there is bound to be countless mistakes and inconsistencies in there. To use that as the sole argument against it is as faulty as trying to use it to prove anything. I see it simply as a book of moral tales and guidelines to help form a society in which people can coexist together. They needed something in order to form order and structure and it was most likely some person's idea that if we can get a whole town to live this way, why not try to spread the info around? And that eventually led to all the religious wars, strife, and lack of faith founded today. But that is only a guess, but most likely a very accurate one since Man is prone to want control even in the name of Religion or in the name of debunking religion. All human faults, fallacies, and misconceptions.
Your views appear to be fluctuating from a vague belief in a creator entity to a prayer granting all loving biblical deity.
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Also, please stop capitalizing atheist like it is a proper noun. It simply means non-theist.
Wizard:
Link to some sort of article, please?
Rughugger:
We assume humanity was created from accidents and what not. However, as technologically advanced as we are, we can't up and throw a bunch of goo together and zap it with electricity and make life. We can manipulate genes and DNA and create glowing tomatoes, bacteria that can spin spider webs, and even dare we say it, a more perfect human if genetic manipulation was legal. As far as I know, the only reason it isn't is because people are afraid of what would result from such experiments. It's not just religious people who fear "playing God"
I don't doubt that natural selection had everything to do with us becoming to what we are today. It's as easy to say that god had nothing to do with that, but the fact is, we just don't know that. You can't prove he wasn't there constantly manipulating genes and altering cellular structures to guide the eventual human being from being formed. We're doing this every day in labs, who's to say some alien race didn't do the same over a long period of time? If that's the case, it might explain why homo sapiens suddenly appeared and the neanderthals died out shortly after. We don't know, we have no solid evidence to go either way. Maybe that's where the mythos of a god came to be.
My view is that Science was given to us by "god" in order to understand how he works. That Science was intended for us to eventually get to his level and then be able to coexist with him. Maybe that's what the concept of heaven is, technological enlightenment to exist with the being or beings that created us or molded us to what we are today. But I don't see a line dividing Science and Religion at all. Which is much like Martin Luthor did way back when he didn't agree with everything religion was stating then. So he adapted his own views and branched off his own way and others followed. However, unlike him, I could care less if anyone believes in what I do. I feel it's the truth and I'm content with it.