Semen and eggs being made from stem cells?

[Tokthree]

Creating life isn't playing god, it's increasing your race's self-sufficiency :D

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[Wizard]

Creating life isn't playing god, it's increasing your race's self-sufficiency :D

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[Inv3rted]

We assume humanity was created from accidents and what not. However, as technologically advanced as we are, we can't up and throw a bunch of goo together and zap it with electricity and make life. We can manipulate genes and DNA and create glowing tomatoes, bacteria that can spin spider webs, and even dare we say it, a more perfect human if genetic manipulation was legal. As far as I know, the only reason it isn't is because people are afraid of what would result from such experiments. It's not just religious people who fear "playing God"

Actually amino acids were surprisingly easy to create with primordial conditions.

I don't doubt that natural selection had everything to do with us becoming to what we are today. It's as easy to say that god had nothing to do with that, but the fact is, we just don't know that. You can't prove he wasn't there constantly manipulating genes and altering cellular structures to guide the eventual human being from being formed. We're doing this every day in labs, who's to say some alien race didn't do the same over a long period of time? If that's the case, it might explain why homo sapiens suddenly appeared and the neanderthals died out shortly after. We don't know, we have no solid evidence to go either way. Maybe that's where the mythos of a god came to be.

The burden of proof is on you for asserting that God exists and was responsible for abiogenesis. Just because I cannot disprove it does not mean it is logically sound and rational.

My view is that Science was given to us by "god" in order to understand how he works. That Science was intended for us to eventually get to his level and then be able to coexist with him. Maybe that's what the concept of heaven is, technological enlightenment to exist with the being or beings that created us or molded us to what we are today. But I don't see a line dividing Science and Religion at all. Which is much like Martin Luthor did way back when he didn't agree with everything religion was stating then. So he adapted his own views and branched off his own way and others followed. However, unlike him, I could care less if anyone believes in what I do. I feel it's the truth and I'm content with it.

[Tokthree]

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[Rughugger]

Creating life isn't playing god, it's increasing your race's self-sufficiency :D

Depends on who you talk to. I just see it as the next evolutionary step in humanity's future. That or mechanical implants.

[Wizard]

Depends on who you talk to. I just see it as the next evolutionary step in humanity's future. That or mechanical implants.

If we can manage to genetically modify ourselves or do the cyborg thing before we blow ourselves up, we may not be forgeted as a race.

[Doorman]

If we can manage to genetically modify ourselves or do the cyborg thing before we blow ourselves up, we may not be forgeted as a race.

That's how it's going to end. I'm going to push the button.

[Rughugger]

Yes, they were made, however the televised argument to debunk that is that the Earth was in a state that life should not have been able to form in the first place. The atmosphere was too toxic, and the places that would have been perfect grounds for such formation of life was too remote for an electrical charge to set it off. I don't remember what show it was on, but they did a lot of tests on that and couldn't make primordial soup using proposed environments existing on Earth at that time.

I'm not saying it is logically sound, but it is a strong possibility. We just don't know. My theory is just as viable as any other about how humanity came to be. Short of a time machine, we will never truly know. That is just my theory.

[Inv3rted]

Yes, they were made, however the televised argument to debunk that is that the Earth was in a state that life should not have been able to form in the first place. The atmosphere was too toxic, and the places that would have been perfect grounds for such formation of life was too remote for an electrical charge to set it off. I don't remember what show it was on, but they did a lot of tests on that and couldn't make primordial soup using proposed environments existing on Earth at that time.

Toxic? Most of the oxygen in the atmosphere was put there by life. Oxygen was originally a waste product. Water and the 'building block' elements and molecules were all present in the early Earth.

[Rughugger]

Toxic? Most of the oxygen in the atmosphere was put there by life. Oxygen was originally a waste product. Water and the 'building block' elements and molecules were all present in the early Earth.

Yeah but since there was no life before then, the atmosphere was toxic so life was formed in the seas. Life did not move to land until sufficient oxygen levels could build up for use by evolved creatures that used this waste as a means of actual self sufficiency.

[JJA0]

I agree with rug I believe that god could have influenced the development of humans and is possibly still slowly guiding us to higher intelligence. I am christian but the bible makes it seem as though we just freaking appeared out of nowhere. Poof suddenly there are humans all over the earth?

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and..... you guys are really fast at typing.

[Inv3rted]

That doesn't imply a creator's existence.

[Rughugger]

That doesn't imply a creator's existence.

No it doesn't, but it leaves enough room for interpretation that there may have been an outside influence geared towards helping what life was on this planet survive. For all we know, we could simply be just an intergalactic sea monkey tank.

[JJA0]

Inv3rted + Rughugger + science/religion = intresting

[Doorman]

Inv3rted + Rughugger + science/religion = intresting

Indeed, I'm saving this thread for later use.