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--- Quote from: Sirrus on November 03, 2009, 10:13:53 PM ---Atheists.
I think Atheists are almost hypocritical in the sense that they always accuse anyone religious (mainly Christians) of being silly for believing this or believing that. Well, inversely, it's just as easy for a Christian to say to an Atheist 'you're silly for not believing in God.' I think that if Atheists really tried to practice what they preach, they'd end up being Agnostic, saying 'Well there's no way to prove it either way.' I, as a Christian, think both Atheists and Agnostics are wrong, but it's a lot easier for me to respect someone who is Agnostic because I think they're more respectful to everyone's beliefs. I, to my best recollection, do not remember ever having met an Atheist who's attitude towards myself or Christians in general was 'Yes, that's your belief, I think you're wrong but I can respect you as a person.'

Also, don't turn this into a religion war because that's not what was intended.

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I'm offended, though. I'm an atheist, but I think a person is good not based on what that person believes in, but rather by how productive that person is in society. You have only met atheist extremist(s), also known as Inv3rted. He thinks, as far as I can tell, that a person is stupid because that person thinks there is some omnipotent being here helping us through our daily lives.

I disagree with you one the fact that there is a god, but I don't think you're a complete idiot for choosing to believe so.


--- Quote from: oromis on November 03, 2009, 10:19:17 PM ---And...america sucks...it sucks so badly in fact, that it does not deserve a capital A. We live for ourselves and don't care what future generations will go through because of our mistakes.

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With this, I can kin of agree, but it isn't like that throughout America. It's just that way with the people in control, unfortunately.
.::Taboo::.:

--- Quote from: Thorax on November 03, 2009, 08:19:04 PM ---Forum arguments make me mad. We get this notion in our head that we can change the world by debating people through text, where it then falls on blind eyes. There is maybe a 5% chance they'll change their mind, but 95% of the time, no matter how much evidence you put in front of them, they'll stay the same. But I can sympathize. Who is going to listen to some stranger, most like under the age of 18 and probably 100s if not 1000s of miles away. For all you know, they could be making up the "evidence". Unless it's about something that can easily be proved and backed up by something the person will understand (Like a math problem, computer software, or grammer), it shouldn't be debated (As in political views, conspiracy theories, origins of life, etc.). I'm totally for standing up for what you believe in, but doing this over the internet is just stupid.

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Hah, boy are you in the wrong thread.


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Angry red text time? Yus.

--- Quote from: Sirrus on November 03, 2009, 10:13:53 PM ---Atheists. Oh hai thar.
I think Atheists are almost hypocritical in the sense that they always accuse anyone religious (mainly Christians) of being silly for believing this or believing that. In my case, that mainly depends on the intensity. There's an older woman in my neighborhood who "praises the lord" for everything, and let's face it, that's just annoying. I also get annoyed if someone tries to push their beliefs onto ME.
Well, inversely, it's just as easy for a Christian to say to an Atheist 'you're silly for not believing in God.' Oh god, it's TOO easy.
I think that if Atheists really tried to practice what they preach, they'd end up being Agnostic, saying 'Well there's no way to prove it either way.' That's me. Huh, guess I'm on the wrong side then? 1/0
I, as a Christian, think both Atheists and Agnostics are wrong, ohu
but it's a lot easier for me to respect someone who is Agnostic because I think they're more respectful to everyone's beliefs. Again, juts don't be obnoxious about it, ya'know?
I, to my best recollection, do not remember ever having met an Atheist who's attitude towards myself or Christians in general was 'Yes, that's your belief, I think you're wrong but I can respect you as a person.' Oh hai.

Also, don't turn this into a religion war because that's not what was intended. Oh, I probably should have read the whole post first.
OH WELL.

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--- Quote from: oromis on November 03, 2009, 10:19:17 PM ---Actually I meant that in past tense, meaning...well, meaning exactly what the bold says.

And...america sucks...it sucks so badly in fact, that it does not deserve a capital A. We live for ourselves and don't care what future generations will go through because of our mistakes.

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The present is what matters, because the present is now. The future can be considered, but we still need to focus a some bit more on now and us. Because if WE don't survive, there is no future for us.
Doorman:

--- Quote from: .::Taboo::. on November 03, 2009, 10:21:54 PM ---The present is what matters, because the present is now. The future can be considered, but we still need to focus a some bit more on now and us. Because if WE don't survive, there is no future for us.

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This is true, but without the future, our species is doomed.
oromis:

--- Quote from: .::Taboo::. on November 03, 2009, 10:21:54 PM ---The present is what matters, because the present is now. The future can be considered, but we still need to focus a some bit more on now and us. Because if WE don't survive, there is no future for us.

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So... multitasking? I see.
.::Taboo::.:

--- Quote from: oromis on November 03, 2009, 10:25:45 PM ---So... multitasking? I see.

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Now you're getting it. :D
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